I'm optimistic for the future but I also feel there's a good chance that the whole "If you don't perform within 2 years, you're gone" isn't going to apply to a lot of the people the fanbase want gone.
Yeah unfortunately I donât see Rashford going any time soon unless a new coach performs while having him permanently benched. I donât see him or us forcing a move otherwise, due to commercial reasons.
Yeah unfortunately I donât see Rashford going any time soon unless a new coach performs while having him permanently benched. I donât see him or us forcing a move otherwise, due to commercial reasons.
Rashford specifically is still in that odd gray area though. Yes, he's been s*** but even then he's not as ineffective as Anthony, not as unprofessional as Sancho, not as unfit as Martial.
You're not going to just sell everyone in one window. If you're selling then you have to prioritise based on unavailability, mentality, contract length remaining, age, and then performance. And of course who is getting offers in the first place.
I don't think this necessarily, even if we come 6th/7th. Unless these next few months are beyond disastrous and he completely loses the dressing room.
Comments by Ratcliffe, INEOS et al. about the expectations of this club would not align with this if Hag retains his job after finishing seventh
There's more factors to take into account than just this season's performances.
From just a pure working relationship perspective Ten Hag is seemingly the consummate professional time and again. Under pressure he's calm and composed, doesn't toss people under the bus, retains self-belief. That stuff counts for a lot especially when you've got new ownership coming in.
Regardless of how we have performed he's objectively a strong football brain type person. He's highly regarded, talked about positively for his work ethic, first one in last one out, detailed plans, involved in every stage of the club, fully engaged with youth and respectful of United principles.
So far the two people that have been sat besides Ineos at games are Sir Alex and David Gill. It's known Sir Alex likes and supports Ten Hag. I'm guessing by extension Gill does too. Those opinions clearly seem to have some measure of weight to Ineos given they're actively engaging with them.
I don't think Ineos will be thinking to toss him aside unless there's some top top candidate available - which there doesn't seem to be. Zidane is really the only one but he's time and again seemed to not be interested. Otherwise there's Flick and that's really about it.
So again for the reasons before, if you know you're building something anew and there's a great deal of restructuring required, then you want a manager who's professional and still hungry and dedicated and aligned with your principles and has the backing of senior stakeholders - which Ten Hag is.
This is almost entirely conjecture. I know youâre a big fan of the man, but letâs call a spade a spade and admit that the manager isnât at the requisite level. We were all mostly duped by a CL performance from over 4 seasons ago.
With all due respect to the man, INEOS taking any credence in Sir Alexâs views other than passing observations would be at their folly. Also, thereâs nothing to suggest Sir Alex still remains a fan â or even to what extent he was initially â of ten Hag.
Not sacking an underperforming manager because the options arenât what you want is one of the weakest argument possible â it lends to the point that the current guy hasnât a scoobert and he remains almost entirely due to fear of the unknown.
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And, just generally, how can anyone watch this midfield chasm he actively sets up every week; the routine cutbacks that we concede invariably every game; the inability to see out matches etc. week in week out and still suggest the manager is not a fundamental issue here?
Those are tactical and managerial concerns that havenât been remedied since September â fundamental tactical flaws which have less to do with player quality, which is what most of those still with hope in the man tend to speak of.
This is almost entirely conjecture. I know youâre a big fan of the man, but letâs call a spade a spade and admit that the manager isnât at the requisite level. We were all mostly duped by a CL performance from over 4 seasons ago.
With all due respect to the man, INEOS taking any credence in Sir Alexâs views other than passing observations would be at their folly. Also, thereâs nothing to suggest Sir Alex still remains a fan â or even to what extent he was initially â of ten Hag.
Not sacking an underperforming manager because the options arenât what you want is one of the weakest argument possible â it lends to the point that the current guy hasnât a scoobert and he remains almost entirely due to fear of the unknown.
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And, just generally, how can anyone watch this midfield chasm he actively sets up every week; the routine cutbacks that we concede invariably every game; the inability to see out matches etc. week in week out and still suggest the manager is not a fundamental issue here?
Those are tactical and managerial concerns that havenât been remedied since September â fundamental tactical flaws which have less to do with player quality, which is what most of those still with hope in the man tend to speak of.
Facts. A few dutch dinner plates and a CL run that he outdid Spurs at their own game at is what he had coming into this
S***housed his way into a second season thanks to Rashford wanting a new contract.
Fields an 11 every week that play like they've never met before.
Record breaking levels of worst ever performances on multiple occasions.
Absolutely dogshit talent ID.
Fraud on every level.
Can't wait until he's gone
Apparently Onanaâs been benched by Cameroon
didnt he come back to Cameroon because him and that manager reconciled?
and now hes benched by that manager? funny.
Imagine how great it would be to never have to see Lindelof Antony Rashford Martial McTominay Sancho etc. on the teamsheet ever again
The curse will be lifted
Apparently Onanaâs been benched by Cameroon
How embarrassing
Definitely a ten hag signing
Thee singlehandedly worst fitted position at United bar the Glazers has been freed
âHow much for Antony?â
âWeâre not selling Antonyâ
âI know, but what if you really had to?â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤ â
âHow much for Antony?â
âWeâre not selling Antonyâ
âI know, but what if you really had to?â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤ â
United negotiations are hilarious
Walk into a boardoom:
Other club: We want 35m
United: 60m. Deal.

âHow much for Antony?â
âWeâre not selling Antonyâ
âI know, but what if you really had to?â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤ â
To be fair, it was more likeâŚ
âHow much for Antony?â
â40 millionâ
âLol weâre not paying thatâ
2 months pass, approaching the end of the window
âSoo⌠you said Antony was 40 million right? I know weâre putting you in a tough spot so weâll give you 50â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤
To be fair, it was more likeâŚ
âHow much for Antony?â
â40 millionâ
âLol weâre not paying thatâ
2 months pass, approaching the end of the window
âSoo⌠you said Antony was 40 million right? I know weâre putting you in a tough spot so weâll give you 50â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤
Yea exactly, i left out the part where the board fails to respond fast enough
Which makes it even more ironic
United negotiations are hilarious
Walk into a boardoom:
Other club: We want 35m
United: 60m. Deal.

Unreal
Wasnât Murthough directly involved for this?

âHow much for Antony?â
âWeâre not selling Antonyâ
âI know, but what if you really had to?â
âLol 100mâ
âDeal buddy đ¤đ¤ â
Or like with Hojlund.
âHow much you want for Hojlundâ
â45 millionâ
âOk dealâ
âScrap that 55 millionâ
âDealâ
âNvm 65 millionâ
âWow rude! Deal.â
âlol 75 milâ
âWhatever, nobodyâs sacking me anyway, Deal!â
Or like with Hojlund.
âHow much you want for Hojlundâ
â45 millionâ
âOk dealâ
âScrap that 55 millionâ
âDealâ
âNvm 65 millionâ
âWow rude! Deal.â
âlol 75 milâ
âWhatever, nobodyâs sacking me anyway, Deal!â
Then we get in the media the next day: âMurtough stood his ground!â