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  • May 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Is this nigga serious ? Before I pick apart line by line and go full spectrum

    Explain why the October 7th attacks and the subsequent war has proven to be a great move by Hamas and a net positive for the gazan people please. 30000 people have died and the prospect of Palestinian freedom in the near term is now looking bleak

  • May 17, 2024
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    You don't have to like the methods of resistance from Hamas, but the most I'll say is...this is a resistance group that is very literally fighting for their lives and the lives of their people against those who wish to wipe them off the face of the earth, and are receiving the support to do it by the US, UK, France, Canada, Germany, etc.

    With keeping all of that in mind...it's just kinda crazy to be wanting to hold the only armed resistance force fighting this desperate struggle accountable for defending themselves against decades of genocidal violence.

  • May 17, 2024
    mvp

    f*** israel, f*** lupe, and god bless the resistance

  • thisisthedrought3

    Explain why the October 7th attacks and the subsequent war has proven to be a great move by Hamas and a net positive for the gazan people please. 30000 people have died and the prospect of Palestinian freedom in the near term is now looking bleak

    A lot of this s*** boils down Israel being way too aggressive. They were taking way too many hostages and the world wasn't even noticing.

    It came to a boiling point. Hamas probably wagered that taking this public by performing a catalyst event was the only real option they had. They also had hostages released which was never going to happen without October 7th.

    They are not the ones dropping bombs on civilians for the last 7 months, you gotta keep that in mind

  • Smacked Voodoo

    You don't have to like the methods of resistance from Hamas, but the most I'll say is...this is a resistance group that is very literally fighting for their lives and the lives of their people against those who wish to wipe them off the face of the earth, and are receiving the support to do it by the US, UK, France, Canada, Germany, etc.

    With keeping all of that in mind...it's just kinda crazy to be wanting to hold the only armed resistance force fighting this desperate struggle accountable for defending themselves against decades of genocidal violence.

    Also something to keep in mind if you are of the "They didn't have to take innocents hostage!" opinion. Hey that's cool. But just know that many times Hamas has been totally willing to free their hostages in exchange for a permanent (as well as even temporary just to stop they death) ceasefire. And every single time, Israel and Netanyahu refused to the terms of a ceasefire.

    So again, it's just kinda hard to hold the resistance group accountable for their methods when multiple times they have offered to free their hostages.

  • May 17, 2024
    thisisthedrought3

    Explain why the October 7th attacks and the subsequent war has proven to be a great move by Hamas and a net positive for the gazan people please. 30000 people have died and the prospect of Palestinian freedom in the near term is now looking bleak

    You know s*** was happening before October 7th right ?

  • May 17, 2024

    You know Netanyahu has attacked every election cycle and Ramadan often right ?

  • May 17, 2024

    “ war “

    If I’m funding one side to kill you and I’m rich and you’re poor couldn’t I show restraint ?

    I come to you with a rocket launcher and you are holding a knife

  • May 17, 2024
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    Mozart

    See this is what I'm talking about. It's not about appealing to sensibilities.

    It's about effectiveness. Is Hamas actually leading to the solution they want or are they not.

    If you say the answer is yes. Then by all means continue. But I'm not gonna pretend like I'm so sure. I lean towards the opposite.

    The question of Palestine has now been forcibly and permanently placed back on the international agenda. Prior to Al Aqsa Flood, the Palestinians were forgotten and alone. The Zionist Entity was able to carry out its "slow" and steady process of genocide and colonization without the eyes of the majority of the world upon it. Now the situation has fundamentally changed and the Palestinian cause is in sharp focus. The illusion of colonial inevitability and invincibility has been shattered. It even goes beyond Palestine. The Palestinian people have made a great sacrifice for the sake of all the world's peoples by exposing the hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the entire Western imperialist order. There is no going back from here. And none of this would be possible without the Al Aqsa Flood Operation.

    You can also read why the resistance undertook Al Aqsa Flood in their own words here.

    palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf

  • May 17, 2024
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    afterimage

    The “effectiveness” doesn’t matter when Israel is poised to settle Gaza regardless. Militant resistance is the only thing keeping Palestinians from being wiped out.

    What the f*** are you even talking about? What solutions have they done that isn’t short of complete capitulation to an entity that wants them enslaved or dead?

    Who cares exactly what way you lean towards? Most Palestinians support Hamas, yet from your post saying “the will of the people doesn’t always mean it’s right” is f***ing idiotic when thing to say.

    You simultaneously want a free Palestine but are hand wringing and finger waving because resistance isn’t some neat rules based game where you take turns and have a contract with rules and or you wait for the UN to tell you whether you can defend yourself or not.

    Clown ass mofo

    "The effectiveness doesnt matter." Read that again and think about it for a second. You are saying the effectiveness doesnt matter?

    If Palestine was gonna be wiped out in 10-15 years it's better they get wiped out in 2 years? Come on now.

    Nobody has ever said this was an easy fight for them. It obviously isnt. But that doesnt mean "because nothing they do matters" any idea they come up is a good one or that the "will of the people" is going to work.

  • May 17, 2024
    Mozart

    "The effectiveness doesnt matter." Read that again and think about it for a second. You are saying the effectiveness doesnt matter?

    If Palestine was gonna be wiped out in 10-15 years it's better they get wiped out in 2 years? Come on now.

    Nobody has ever said this was an easy fight for them. It obviously isnt. But that doesnt mean "because nothing they do matters" any idea they come up is a good one or that the "will of the people" is going to work.

    Neither has to happen there is no way you can say the hostages and deaths at October 7th demand all this

  • May 17, 2024
    Mozart

    "The effectiveness doesnt matter." Read that again and think about it for a second. You are saying the effectiveness doesnt matter?

    If Palestine was gonna be wiped out in 10-15 years it's better they get wiped out in 2 years? Come on now.

    Nobody has ever said this was an easy fight for them. It obviously isnt. But that doesnt mean "because nothing they do matters" any idea they come up is a good one or that the "will of the people" is going to work.

    What is “effectiveness” to you exactly?

    Stop just saying that as come catch all.

    Defending against being wiped out by all means necessary, and they haven’t been wiped out yet. Are you going around with a checklist of how to defend against colonialism?

    The weight is on Israel, US, NATO to lift the pressure they have been applying

    All your other points stem from judging something as “effective” when you are blaming how many civilians die due to Hamas leadership and not Zionists

    There is no other answer besides US stops funding Israel and Israel agrees to be realistic and start cooperating with Hamas. It has been Israel who has rejected all the proposals outside of those completely taking away any leverage Palestinians have

    Mind you, it is okay to critique Palestinians with a magnifying glass but Israel has free reign to discuss their actions after all is said and done or while they enjoy the majority of institutional support worldwide

  • May 17, 2024
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    airric

    he's spoken MANY times (even made multiple songs) about being against the Israeli government, so calling him a "zionist" is ridiculous. i know how people like throwing that word around like it's nothing now, so it's lost all meaning, but he's been nothing but critical of the Israeli government.

    He explains this in the facebook video you posted at the bottom, and also (rightfully) criticizes Hamas. Criticizing Hamas doesn't make you a "Zionist" friend

    I hate the f***ing cultists on this site

  • May 17, 2024
    afterimage

    Bro really posted the smiley posting US state dept talking points

    Bro we on the same side

  • May 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Aight if black people said rightfully so all whites get out of Africa and just started killing and bombing anyone who disagrees what would that be ? Would USA send billions to do it ?

    These ppl woulda called Nat Turner a monster bro

  • Sir Real

    The question of Palestine has now been forcibly and permanently placed back on the international agenda. Prior to Al Aqsa Flood, the Palestinians were forgotten and alone. The Zionist Entity was able to carry out its "slow" and steady process of genocide and colonization without the eyes of the majority of the world upon it. Now the situation has fundamentally changed and the Palestinian cause is in sharp focus. The illusion of colonial inevitability and invincibility has been shattered. It even goes beyond Palestine. The Palestinian people have made a great sacrifice for the sake of all the world's peoples by exposing the hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the entire Western imperialist order. There is no going back from here. And none of this would be possible without the Al Aqsa Flood Operation.

    You can also read why the resistance undertook Al Aqsa Flood in their own words here.

    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf

    u know they ain’t clicking that link

    they don’t even read screenshots that i send on here of books that i’ve read with highlighted text that back up what the f*** im saying

  • May 17, 2024
    Mozart

    "The effectiveness doesnt matter." Read that again and think about it for a second. You are saying the effectiveness doesnt matter?

    If Palestine was gonna be wiped out in 10-15 years it's better they get wiped out in 2 years? Come on now.

    Nobody has ever said this was an easy fight for them. It obviously isnt. But that doesnt mean "because nothing they do matters" any idea they come up is a good one or that the "will of the people" is going to work.

    So what better option could they do?

    Remember they tried the nonviolent route.

    Now ask Rouzan al-Najjar how well that went

  • May 17, 2024

    This actually a great summary of Israel-Palestine relations lol @Mozart @thisisthedrought3

  • May 17, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    These ppl woulda called Nat Turner a monster bro

    “ she should ask nicely “

  • Jonboi

    I hate the f***ing cultists on this site

    Who's the cultists?

    The ones trying to get the bombs to stop dropping?

    Or the ones that support the murderous regime that has killed 30-40 thousand people?

  • May 17, 2024
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    Leftside

    Lowkey Council of Nicea talk

    Saint Augustine Bishop of Hippo was a former Manichaen

    It doesn’t make sense for a massive religion to just disappear like that

    And check this the Manichaens had a fasting month in honour of Mani because he was starved to death in the Sassanid dungeons

  • May 17, 2024
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    One side fights for power while the other is fighting for survival. Looking at “both sides” does nothing except give that person some self-fulfilling morality as if it’s a complex situation.

  • May 17, 2024
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    best poster

    One side fights for power while the other is fighting for survival. Looking at “both sides” does nothing except give that person some self-fulfilling morality as if it’s a complex situation.

    Dude Hamas needs to free the hostages so this s*** stops.

    That dumb s*** they did was never going to work. They gambled and lost. Arabs in the region dont care about Palestinians.No nation is going to help them. Hizbullah got ridiculed after launching over 300 missiles and not even hitting a parking lot then to add to insult they had their main military airbase bombed by a single inside job bombing in Isfahan by Israel and been hiding ever since. They are incompetent idiots playing with Palestinians lives.

  • May 17, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    He is bitter that’s the thing tho.

    If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have spent the last like 5 years selling wolf tickets about Kendrick Lamar. Lol.

    If he was real he would’ve directed that energy towards

    I honestly wonder if Kendrick has caught wind of all the hate from Lupe and if he even cares

  • May 17, 2024

    aight I am at a computer anyone who wants a genuine discussion I am here for it

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