yeah its a double album. track 1-9 is wave the slave concept and then the rest is drogas.
Ah makes sense
So I listened to it. Very strong (dense) lyrically. A lot to unpack. I’ve always been more of a production guy been a lyrics guy, however, so I still prefer t&y over this, but this is a STRONG ass album and the production isn’t bad by any means. Also The concept kinda just stops halfway through. Not really sure what happened there
My favorite song is Alan forever. It’s a reallly touching tracks. Gives me goosebumps
T&Y still mine as well Wav File & Sun God Sam is my fav tbh
T&Y still mine as well Wav File & Sun God Sam is my fav tbh
Wav files and mural jr are insane
Absolutely not
most lupe fans will say T&Y is as good or better than F&L...
Absolutely not
In what way is it not tho?
it’s just as strong conceptually, lyrically and performance wise
production is on point too with Dj Dahi & S1 behind the board for most of it
Lupe cannot and will not make anything better than either version of F&L or The Cool. It’s literally impossible at this point. Way too different of a place he’s in.
T&Y is on par if not better than f&l
I kinda get where you’re coming from tho. Kinda like how Kanye can never make another CD or LR
just change name to drill music
/thread
nah, this name way better. also the music not even gonna be drill. most likely just the topics
most lupe fans will say T&Y is as good or better than F&L...
None of the top moments on T&Y are close to even sniffing the top moments on F&L 1. That’s really what it comes down to. This isn’t even including the absurdly good singles, features, and critical acclaim it got as a whole. You even have randoms like Meek Mill saying publicly how much that album meant to him, etc. Nobody cares about t&y past Lupe fans.
T&Y is on par if not better than f&l
I kinda get where you’re coming from tho. Kinda like how Kanye can never make another CD or LR
T&Y is literally not better than F&L in any critical aspect other than recency bias and having a better mix lol what are you personally basing this on.
In what way is it not tho?
it’s just as strong conceptually, lyrically and performance wise
production is on point too with Dj Dahi & S1 behind the board for most of it
T&Y is pretentious and F&L is much more smoothly done. Lupe was the “best rapper in the world” on F&L in way more ways than he was on T&Y. And it wasn’t having to be forced with 8 or 9 minute songs and pointless interludes in an attempt to be faux artistic.
None of the top moments on T&Y are close to even sniffing the top moments on F&L 1. That’s really what it comes down to. This isn’t even including the absurdly good singles, features, and critical acclaim it got as a whole. You even have randoms like Meek Mill saying publicly how much that album meant to him, etc. Nobody cares about t&y past Lupe fans.
"Nobody cares about t&y past Lupe fans"
Guess you didn't read my comment that says "most lupe fans will say T&Y is as good or better..."
notice how you're the only one in this thread that disagrees, so my comment still stands.. what you're writing is your opinion, which is fine, but most of his fans (and lupe himself) disagrees. so stop dismissing other people in here that like T&Y better (which, again, is most of his fans)
also, songs like mural and adoration of magi got plenty of recognition from other artists as well.
also, also, i still f***ing love food and liquor. one of my favorite albums ever. but T&Y is more refined in almost every way (production, lyrically, mixing, etc etc)
T&Y is literally not better than F&L in any critical aspect other than recency bias and having a better mix lol what are you personally basing this on.
Lupe is more evolved musically on T&Y than F&L, he expanded the types of song structures he uses and the production is much better
"Nobody cares about t&y past Lupe fans"
Guess you didn't read my comment that says "most lupe fans will say T&Y is as good or better..."
notice how you're the only one in this thread that disagrees, so my comment still stands.. what you're writing is your opinion, which is fine, but most of his fans (and lupe himself) disagrees. so stop dismissing other people in here that like T&Y better (which, again, is most of his fans)
also, songs like mural and adoration of magi got plenty of recognition from other artists as well.
also, also, i still f***ing love food and liquor. one of my favorite albums ever. but T&Y is more refined in almost every way (production, lyrically, mixing, etc etc)
you’re 100% right
the only way that the first two albums could be seen as being way better than T&Y is just based on nostalgia alone, which i can understand. but idk, it’s such a strong well- formed project that i can’t see how it couldn’t at least hold its own against F&L / the Cool
None of the top moments on T&Y are close to even sniffing the top moments on F&L 1. That’s really what it comes down to. This isn’t even including the absurdly good singles, features, and critical acclaim it got as a whole. You even have randoms like Meek Mill saying publicly how much that album meant to him, etc. Nobody cares about t&y past Lupe fans.
Rappers have praised TY tho. Isaiah Rashad recently said he prefers T&Y. And Mural is a staple for rappers. F&L is classic but you diminishing TY
The production and song writing is superior on TY. FL has accessibility, that’s it
I really like Big Energy, wonder if Kyle Townsend will have a beat on here.
or is this completely trakk? I'm hype with it either way lol
I really like Big Energy, wonder if Kyle Townsend will have a beat on here.
or is this completely trakk? I'm hype with it either way lol
Trakk only
T&Y is literally not better than F&L in any critical aspect other than recency bias and having a better mix lol what are you personally basing this on.
Pretty much everything the other poster said. The production is at its best though and that’s what I care about most
Y'all keep bumping this with no new news
Same thing happening in push’s and Frank thread . Like use chat threads lol y’all getting me hyped