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  • Oct 12, 2022
    Ajax

    BLM is irrelevant because the movement's leaders were exposed to be corrupt, evil vampires

    BLM is not mentioned in the current zeitgeist because it lost ALL credibility

    These things are directly related

    I'm sure if you asked Kanye point blank if BLM "meant nothing" he'd disagree

    Again you are putting some very intense words in his mouth

    But then again you're, as I said, arguing in bad faith

    I gotta do some work now, later hater

    Again you are putting some very intense words in his mouth

    And so are you bruh lmfao

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    Ajax

    BLM is irrelevant because the movement's leaders were exposed to be corrupt, evil vampires

    BLM is not mentioned in the current zeitgeist because it lost ALL credibility

    These things are directly related

    I'm sure if you asked Kanye point blank if BLM "meant nothing" he'd disagree

    Again you are putting some very intense words in his mouth

    But then again you're, as I said, arguing in bad faith

    I gotta do some work now, later hater

    I'm a hater because I disagree with Kanye's "political" views when he's not actually a politician

    You kanye stans are f***ing jokes these days

  • Oct 12, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    not as direct as Ye ass did but yes they many times have

    Pop out examples. He said anti-black not Zionist you immediately deflected towards another point altogether cause you know you couldn’t address his immediate point. Cause uh, how’s Milo been doing?

    Of course American media lets Zionist rhetoric go off. America are literally allies to Israel in the conflict against Palestine soooo it wouldn’t make sense for them to villanize or heavily critique ppl that also align with their views politically and morally (and no, I’m not saying this is right but I’m just saying American media benefits from this)

    They can as well be anti muslim while muslims die in war. lol American Sniper they can sell it to us.

    American Sniper got criticized to hell because it f***ing distorted the s*** out of Chris Kyle’s story lol. Also cause that nigga was known for telling more fibs than Freddie Gibbs. You can be anti-Muslim in European countries surely but Ilhan Omar gets her s*** off regularly on Twitter (that I agree with btw) and nobody deplatformed her yet.

    Now once again, address Josk’s original point about someone anti-black having their platform lol

    Anti black having a platform. I mean that depends if you think Ye conspiracy about jewish people is truly focuse don anti jewish or anti kushner. I don't necessarily think Farrakhan is as simple as anti jew or equivalent to Hitler mindset.

    My point is in America is it not anti black to constantly cheer on a prison system and even in the cases of police brutality people often justify the actions of the police or are against defunding? This isn't to deflect its part of his original question and I have clarified since. Online, in corporate news and what we accept as words from actors, musicians and politicians varies based on the race of the person.

    Its what the central point of the black lives matter movement was that our lives have varying value so I am confused on how suddenly its "Jewish people and black people are treated the same in the media" its different. We have different issues.

    I am not just talking about words though because yes they are words and yes they are hurtful but when I bring up Muslims , Palestinians or Black people at times I am talking about people openly being able to devalue their lives make jokes about casualties, drone strikes, guantanamo bay that perhaps wouldn't fly.

    I mean we saw Obama joke about drone striking the Jonas Brothers . The deathcon3 isn't what I am talking about so much as him saying the value of Jewish people working together and him wanting that for black people.

    If you think I am deflecting or don't get what I am saying I will leave it alone. I am not defending Ye's actions in anyway. I am saying in terms of media and devaluing of lives be it cosigning war. Ignorant statements from about the Chinese with Covid, Palsetinians, Muslims throughout the war era certain things get quicker reactions obviously because the Holocaust is evoked

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    insertcoolnamehere

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/us/ohio-hovater-white-nationalist.html?_r=2

    NY Times got rightfully killed for this article. But pieces like these during the rise of the neo nazi movement in America were the norm. And nothing screams more irresponsible then introducing a sympathetic eye towards the margins of society who’s entire rhetoric revolves around the violent elimination of racial groups of people.

    Cause by giving said margins of society a platform (these articles/vice docs/etc) you legitimize them and thus make it seem ok.

    I know this’ll go against a lot of white people’s romanticization of freedom of speech but some voices are not meant to be heard. That’s why cacs when exposed to have ties to the KKK end up getting expulsed from their jobs lol.

    they really got to chill with the paywall lol

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    Deletedd

    Got his ass

    lol I responded

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    crippin jimmy

    How do you feel about Marxism? I wanna see something right quick.

    I doubt most of you know what it even truly is, let alone Kanye

  • Oct 12, 2022
    Ajax

    I doubt most of you know what it even truly is, let alone Kanye

    nice elitist vibes btw

  • Oct 12, 2022
    Vibe

    I'm a hater because I disagree with Kanye's "political" views when he's not actually a politician

    You kanye stans are f***ing jokes these days

    What are Kanye's political views?

    I'm not a Kanye stan btw the last album I listened to was Pablo lol

  • Oct 12, 2022

    What do you mean got his ass. Even the fact that we have constant media celebrating the death suffering and trauma of so many groups is part of my point the fact that it gets made in the first place then has a box office following. Depicting Muslims as savages or at times black people . The churning cycle of that is part of what I am talking about. I am saying how we view all groups in art affects how we view them in reality.

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    HaroldsChicken

    lol I responded

    You ain’t really address none of what i was saying but it’s cool. Bout to head to the gym.

    Especially when defunding police was like an entire slogan that went viral in 2020

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    HaroldsChicken

    lol I responded

    Chill i still have to read it all

  • Oct 12, 2022
    Deletedd

    Chill i still have to read it all

    Like I take time to respond and Nigga always starts s*** with me when I have made abundantly clear Ye is foul.

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    Kanye can bring Virgil's name up in conversation, say BLM was a scam, be antisemitic and his stans will still ride with him this s*** is a f***ing cult

  • Oct 12, 2022
    HaroldsChicken

    they really got to chill with the paywall lol

    Basically it’s like just a “regular guy living my life” type article about a nazi sympathizer.

    Like them vice docs when they would just interview a bunch of far right rednecks and s***.

  • Oct 12, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    You ain’t really address none of what i was saying but it’s cool. Bout to head to the gym.

    Especially when defunding police was like an entire slogan that went viral in 2020

    "especially when defunding a police was a slogan that went viral in 2020"

    yes a slogan. I am separating slogans, catch phrases , movements and shirts from WHAT SUBSTANTIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN TO REPEAT CYCLES . We nearly just saw a kid shot to death over a mcdouble. We got to make progress is part of the point.

  • Oct 12, 2022
    insertcoolnamehere

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/us/ohio-hovater-white-nationalist.html?_r=2

    NY Times got rightfully killed for this article. But pieces like these during the rise of the neo nazi movement in America were the norm. And nothing screams more irresponsible then introducing a sympathetic eye towards the margins of society who’s entire rhetoric revolves around the violent elimination of racial groups of people.

    Cause by giving said margins of society a platform (these articles/vice docs/etc) you legitimize them and thus make it seem ok.

    I know this’ll go against a lot of white people’s romanticization of freedom of speech but some voices are not meant to be heard. That’s why cacs when exposed to have ties to the KKK end up getting expulsed from their jobs lol.

    I actually agree with you, the reason I asked is because the NY Times is notoriously left leaning. I'll check the article out now.

  • Oct 12, 2022
    Vibe

    Kanye can bring Virgil's name up in conversation, say BLM was a scam, be antisemitic and his stans will still ride with him this s*** is a f***ing cult

    "ride for him"

    I just want the Nigga to get better where he can articulate his thoughts and not be fed on by conspiracy theorist. "they need to 5150 and medicate him now " just different from how I view situations. I understand hating him, being mad or disappointed at him. Elon trying to be a voice of reason to him and him still going to the shop or the black community with this idea focusing on another group rather than how the black community can improve shows he pretty far gone.

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    Ajax

    Literally all art is supposed to convey things like this. It's no wonder that most idiots can't discern meaning out of such a basic premise

    He, as you said, even explained it for the dum dums that immediately cried racismo

    But that's still not good enough. They parrot the talking points and "you're wrong" even if you explain the meaning

    They don't get what Ye is saying because they live in a different reality and have different lived experiences. But part of empathy should be to understand where the other is coming from, instead they attack

    It's all so tiresome

    Exactly agree

    That’s literally what Ye is trying to tell them but the media continues to try and vilify him

    Like bro it’s so frustrating

    He doesn’t it to himself because he knows it’ll get a certain reaction but at what point do ppl just realize what he’s doing

    Bro has done this same exact thing for the past 4 years and everyone keeps trying to push this “oh Kanye West is crazy he can’t say that” narrative

    Why tf would anyone support BLM fr. Where is that money going to ?? Niggas did all that donating and marching and ain’t s*** changed. S***s sad that they used George Floyd’s death to make all that money

    Niggas is still dying ain’t a single dollar been put in the hood niggas just burned down a target and then the government and all these other niggas took that s*** and said “Yea we actually agree guys pls stop” that movement ain’t radical s*** don’t mean nothing

    Why tf they got Kamala Harris taking a knee saying she f*** with the movement when she putting niggas in jail they got racist yt ppl with that s*** in they bios

    But Kanye West is crazy for challenging the status quo ???

    Kanye West is crazy for saying something about Jewish ppl when Adidas and Gap are trying to steal his ideas and his company ???

    Tf has adidas ever done for black ppl but capitalize off us ??

    I own mad adidas shoes cool as f*** but Adidas ain’t friends with me they not in my community tryna give back because I like Stan Smiths

    They stealing from Ye and the media try to act like he’s crazy when he comes out and says that

  • Oct 12, 2022

    LeBron is a cornball

  • Oct 12, 2022

    "if you don't demonize human beings than you nuthugging" Nah I just don't really demonize anyone . I am not mad at those that do I just don't do it.

  • rico

    BLM has been exploited and used up for cash. Any remnant of what it was is long gone. Honestly I think we should find a new term to rally behind just because of how much the organization has stolen and manipulated black people

    Thank you

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    Vibe

    Lebron wasn't even there ironically did you even read the article

    I just want to quote this post again to show that the person i've been arguing with didn't even read the article against kanye, he just defended kanye

    Lebron was never there

  • jynth

    he’s not obligated to share his mic w/ a manic ye on an anti-jew press run cmon

    Calling someone manic is disrespectful

  • Oct 12, 2022
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    Vibe

    I just want to quote this post again to show that the person i've been arguing with didn't even read the article against kanye, he just defended kanye

    Lebron was never there

    Why didn’t you respond to my post. You seem very active ITT

  • Ajax

    Noooo dude you can't criticize anything net positive/good, even if it has glaring flaws, because that means you're an enemy and hurting the cause bro!

    Not even that most people criticize BLM as a movement, it's the corrupt leaders that used it as their personal little slush fund/piggy bank to further their own careers and bank accounts

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