Nothing of what you're saying holds value when you're referring to the ORGANIZATION.
It means NOTHING.
Kanye stating that BLM Organization stole means nothing against the actual MOVEMENT.
Anybody who doesn't understand this is just looking for attention
I never disagreed that Kanye’s communication was bad. But he’s explained that he was going against the organization, not the movement. Wether you like it or not, the organization is directly attached to the movement. The movement is forever tarnished because it’s been exploited by corporate America for millions. How much change has really been made?
B0nfire why do u care so much lol.
And Bron like most NBA players probably didn’t want to burn the bags that they get from that market.
I don't care I just find it so strange to see this site turn against Ye when he hasn't even been that controversial
These conversations are held in closed living rooms, bars, barbershops, events etc. every day
If you didn't know about the moral outrage it has created and just watch the Tucker interview the s*** he was saying is crazy yes, but hateful and evil etc? no. It was a typical Kanye interview where he says little substantive because he can't formulate/research his ideas clearly. That's why it sounds so damn stupid
Not trying to rile you up here, but can you tell my directly what has the BLM Movement done in the past 2 years other than be a catchphrase? There hasn’t been any police reform, voting repression has still been a major issue, there hasn’t been any special legislation. Like what am I missing. It has got some awareness I guess, but nothing has been changed or did I miss something. (fuck the WLM shirt by Ye, I just want some answers)
Black squares on social media and BLMs in white girl’s bios
I never disagreed that Kanye’s communication was bad. But he’s explained that he was going against the organization, not the movement. Wether you like it or not, the organization is directly attached to the movement. The movement is forever tarnished because it’s been exploited by corporate America for millions. How much change has really been made?
You trying to tarnish BLM to defend kanye is f***ing disgusting
Unpersoning will always be cringe and everyone deserves a platform.
If they actually suck, then them having a platform won’t amount to much for them.
You trying to tarnish BLM to defend kanye is f***ing disgusting
Alright I’m done talking to you, f***ing weirdo lmfao
Because when we tried giving “everyone a dialogue” last decade it incentivized an entire movement of neo nazis on American soil. :word:
Articles every other week from vice and ny times and more that were sympathizing and doing just like you said of “giving voices to the other side”
Turns out, you give s*** a platform it gains life huh
Link the NY Times articles.
I swear you’re like the only person on this website that understands what this man’s Ye be doing 😭
Niggas be tryna “cancel” him and say he’s over
This nigga be saying the correct s*** over and over my god
It’s so frustrating
Just shut up and let ye cook
I’m pretty sure bro doesn’t actually f***ing hate Jewish ppl that’s insane
He’s just making a point about some other s*** and made a s***ty statement
Is that statement politically correct to say ? Noo
Is Kanye West one of the most talented and successful creatives ever ?? Yes
Stop tryna hurt him
Hating on Ye is you siding with the corporations and anyone that wants to harm any creative at any level
nice bait lmaoooooo
Alright I’m done talking to you, f***ing weirdo lmfao
The music is not that good man
The music is not that good man
I’m not even a fan of Kanye’s music like that. I just agree with his intentions in this situation. Unbiased
I haven’t seen 1 other person use it in recent memory.
Also, it’s used because it’s accurate.
Ye or someone else calls out one of society’s sacred cows, they get banned from everything, they are removed from ever appearing in polite society ever again, and you get similar treatment for saying anything about them that isn’t just dogpiling vitriol on them.
They are no longer a person to society. Hence “unpersoning”
It's not deplatforming or "de-personing" if they don't want the man on their show... Ye saying some wild s*** and they don't need to take that risk.
I never disagreed that Kanye’s communication was bad. But he’s explained that he was going against the organization, not the movement. Wether you like it or not, the organization is directly attached to the movement. The movement is forever tarnished because it’s been exploited by corporate America for millions. How much change has really been made?
Deflecting and saying that BLM the organization has little to do with BLM the movement is such cope.
You wonder if Vibe is even serious? It's such a stupid stance
Why even argue with that poster lol. He's arguing from a place of bad faith
"NONONONONO BLM ISN'T BLM DUDE COME ON"
Like who actually believes that. Go back to reddit or wherever there's a circlejerk if you can't handle someone having a different opinion
Like it or not, any normal person is going to equivocate BLM with BLM lol
It's such a funny thing they try to do, too bad for the powers that be, most people have The Internet and can use a search engine these days to formulate their own stances and don't need the TeeVee or Twitter to spoonfeed them
It's not deplatforming or "de-personing" if they don't want the man on their show... Ye saying some wild s*** and they don't need to take that risk.
It’s not just the show though. It’s never just one thing.
Also, it’s probably a toss up whether or not they actually still want him for the ratings in reality. They just know that weirdos online will have their heads if they air the episode, so they bury it.
Deflecting and saying that BLM the organization has little to do with BLM the movement is such cope.
You wonder if Vibe is even serious? It's such a stupid stance
Why even argue with that poster lol. He's arguing from a place of bad faith
"NONONONONO BLM ISN'T BLM DUDE COME ON"
Like who actually believes that. Go back to reddit or wherever there's a circlejerk if you can't handle someone having a different opinion
Like it or not, any normal person is going to equivocate BLM with BLM lol
It's such a funny thing they try to do, too bad for the powers that be, most people have The Internet and can use a search engine these days to formulate their own stances and don't need the TeeVee or Twitter to spoonfeed them
I always gotta be the f***ing one to fight for these motherfuckers and I don't even stan kanye.
BLM has people that stole. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
Does that mean the movement means nothing? NO.
For Kanye to act like the movement means nothing anymore and make NO reference to the good that it has done is a perfect example about how he does this for attention
His beliefs are based on what brings him attention
He doesn't stand for anything of value
I haven’t seen 1 other person use it in recent memory.
Also, it’s used because it’s accurate.
Ye or someone else calls out one of society’s sacred cows, they get banned from everything, they are removed from ever appearing in polite society ever again, and you get similar treatment for saying anything about them that isn’t just dogpiling vitriol on them.
They are no longer a person to society. Hence “unpersoning”
This post was originally a response to another post. Where did that post go?
Link the NY Times articles.
nytimes.com/2017/11/25/us/ohio-hovater-white-nationalist.html?_r=2
NY Times got rightfully killed for this article. But pieces like these during the rise of the neo nazi movement in America were the norm. And nothing screams more irresponsible then introducing a sympathetic eye towards the margins of society who’s entire rhetoric revolves around the violent elimination of racial groups of people.
Cause by giving said margins of society a platform (these articles/vice docs/etc) you legitimize them and thus make it seem ok.
I know this’ll go against a lot of white people’s romanticization of freedom of speech but some voices are not meant to be heard. That’s why cacs when exposed to have ties to the KKK end up getting expulsed from their jobs lol.
Kanye west is a white supremacist with his f***ing RED maga cap on as long as it brings him attention
He doesn't care about politics and everybody trying to explain HIMSELF for him is f***ing hilarious
He doesn't care about you or know about you bro but thank you for explaining what he means, since you clearly know
Go stream donda
not as direct as Ye ass did but yes they many times have
Pop out examples. He said anti-black not Zionist you immediately deflected towards another point altogether cause you know you couldn’t address his immediate point. Cause uh, how’s Milo been doing?
Of course American media lets Zionist rhetoric go off. America are literally allies to Israel in the conflict against Palestine soooo it wouldn’t make sense for them to villanize or heavily critique ppl that also align with their views politically and morally (and no, I’m not saying this is right but I’m just saying American media benefits from this)
They can as well be anti muslim while muslims die in war. lol American Sniper they can sell it to us.
American Sniper got criticized to hell because it f***ing distorted the s*** out of Chris Kyle’s story lol. Also cause that nigga was known for telling more fibs than Freddie Gibbs. You can be anti-Muslim in European countries surely but Ilhan Omar gets her s*** off regularly on Twitter (that I agree with btw) and nobody deplatformed her yet.
Now once again, address Josk’s original point about someone anti-black having their platform lol
Got his ass
I always gotta be the f***ing one to fight for these motherfuckers and I don't even stan kanye.
BLM has people that stole. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
Does that mean the movement means nothing? NO.
For Kanye to act like the movement means nothing anymore and make NO reference to the good that it has done is a perfect example about how he does this for attention
His beliefs are based on what brings him attention
He doesn't stand for anything of value
BLM is irrelevant because the movement's leaders were exposed to be corrupt, evil vampires
BLM is not mentioned in the current zeitgeist because it lost ALL credibility
These things are directly related
I'm sure if you asked Kanye point blank if BLM "meant nothing" he'd disagree
Again you are putting some very intense words in his mouth
But then again you're, as I said, arguing in bad faith
I gotta do some work now, later hater
Deflecting and saying that BLM the organization has little to do with BLM the movement is such cope.
You wonder if Vibe is even serious? It's such a stupid stance
Why even argue with that poster lol. He's arguing from a place of bad faith
"NONONONONO BLM ISN'T BLM DUDE COME ON"
Like who actually believes that. Go back to reddit or wherever there's a circlejerk if you can't handle someone having a different opinion
Like it or not, any normal person is going to equivocate BLM with BLM lol
It's such a funny thing they try to do, too bad for the powers that be, most people have The Internet and can use a search engine these days to formulate their own stances and don't need the TeeVee or Twitter to spoonfeed them
How do you feel about Marxism? I wanna see something right quick.