I'm just happy to see those that are truly transphobic are getting exposed.
Everyone thought XXX was trans, she ain't and surely wasn't at the end of the game
Last page stinks
man what? I am not talking about impact or influence
I am just saying this game's stealth is far better than mgs 3 in a number of ways and its honestly mgs 5 level while being a far better story and game overall.
Alright I'll bite. Describe to me how the stealth is better aside from the fact that it's a newer game so obviously it would have more complex animations and ai please

my guy i just don’t like the revenge plot going nowhere and i don’t like Abby although i respect that they tried with the pov.
I don’t care about any of the character’s sexualities, etc.
also it’s a huge amount of misinformation saying Abby is trans. That’s not actually the case lol
Lev is obviously trans
Not my point but whatever
i don't understand the ending. And if they were trying to make her human, why didn't that show up more often? Very little of the game shows Ellie as the same girl from the 1st one where she wasn't a cold blooded killer.
i don't understand the ending. And if they were trying to make her human, why didn't that show up more often? Very little of the game shows Ellie as the same girl from the 1st one where she wasn't a cold blooded killer.
She's literally a serial killer
Alright I'll bite. Describe to me how the stealth is better aside from the fact that it's a newer game so obviously it would have more complex animations and ai please
Those 2 are single handedly enough reason why its far better lmfao
MGS 3 and 5 are relatively predictable compared to this game, where in those games, it moreso feels like you are toying with your enemies cuz they are so easy to stealthily kill but in this you are moreso trying to actually survive because with dogs tracking your movement and AI constantly looking around and interacting with one another it makes it far harder to cleanly kill everyone in a quiet fashion
She's literally a serial killer
in this one? Yes
Last one? No, she wasn't.
And yet, she become a serial killer and is shook with her actions even though she came across two states to get her revenge.
It’s the not the only facet of the art in video games. I am not obligated to play the game to understand the story through it’s visual storytelling
One of the main points of the story is how killing all these people impacts the characters emotionally. If you haven't played 20 hours of this violent ass game you won't feel the impact of that and will have a different opinion then someone who has actually played the game. Once again the gameplay is a part of the story
And here's my other problem, the leaks make discussion pointless.
I hate it, I'm a bigot,
I like it, I'm defending bad writing, there's no middle ground in trying to rationalize and under what happens because the leaks f***ed this whole conversation and people be hating Abby from the jump and won't change their mind.
A game shouldn't make me feel bad because of the product, not even the gameplay but what is going on outside of it. This is atrocious
in this one? Yes
Last one? No, she wasn't.
And yet, she become a serial killer and is shook with her actions even though she came across two states to get her revenge.
If you seriously don't understand how a combination of growing up, losing someone you were very close with , and doing brutal things for revenge sake wouldn't change a person, then idk what to tell you.
One of the main points of the story is how killing all these people impacts the characters emotionally. If you haven't played 20 hours of this violent ass game you won't feel the impact of that and will have a different opinion then someone who has actually played the game. Once again the gameplay is a part of the story
Hol up
Lemme just cop this game for 60 dollars
And play for the next 30 hours and i’ll come back and tell you exactly the same thing except for the fact that i “felt” the impact of every kill in the game
just so you can take my opinion seriously on the story.
If you seriously don't understand how a combination of growing up, losing someone you were very close with , and doing brutal things for revenge sake wouldn't change a person, then idk what to tell you.
Yeah, except she only acted like she was remorseful after her actions, not before or in the middle of it, and the game doesn't do justice on the people you kill when it switches up becauae it's already done and dealt with.
I know why she wanted to kill, just that it seems too convenient to try and be sad about her actions. It's too late for that.
Frankly, I believe ND lost the factor of making the player resonate with either character and just being stuck as an observer in the neutral ground. Except we already know Ellie and this is going to sway us way to the left.
Hol up
Lemme just cop this game for 60 dollars
And play for the next 30 hours and i’ll come back and tell you exactly the same thing except for the fact that i “felt” the impact of every kill in the game
just so you can take my opinion seriously on the story.
nobody will take your opinion seriously anyway my guy. You went into this wanting to hate it.
Those 2 are single handedly enough reason why its far better lmfao
MGS 3 and 5 are relatively predictable compared to this game, where in those games, it moreso feels like you are toying with your enemies cuz they are so easy to stealthily kill but in this you are moreso trying to actually survive because with dogs tracking your movement and AI constantly looking around and interacting with one another it makes it far harder to cleanly kill everyone in a quiet fashion
Aite I ain't doing this with you fam. You got it lol
nobody will take your opinion seriously anyway my guy. You went into this wanting to hate it.
The dude's a joke.
nobody will take your opinion seriously anyway my guy. You went into this wanting to hate it.
Yeah dude i went into it wanting to hate it.
for sure.
Yeah you just read my f***ing mind
Yeah, except she only acted like she was remorseful after her actions, not before or in the middle of it, and the game doesn't do justice on the people you kill when it switches up becauae it's already done and dealt with.
I know why she wanted to kill, just that it seems too convenient to try and be sad about her actions. It's too late for that.
Frankly, I believe ND lost the factor of making the player resonate with either character and just being stuck as an observer in the neutral ground. Except we already know Ellie and this is going to sway us way to the left.
The whole point of that is to realize there are no good or bad characters in this world. Everyone is flawed and the outcomes are never going to be gift wrapped in a neat bow. It seems like in a MCU world where everyone is just expecting a fan service story that satisfies them, people have forgotten about storytelling like this.
Also she only truly starts acting remorseful once she starts realizing what more she has to lose around her and when she finally has to actually start torturing people herself.
could never be me, shelling out 60 dollars to tell you my opinion on a game’s story that i can easily watch in a walkthrough video.
Need to cut video games out and get ya money up
Need to cut video games out and get ya money up
I hardly play video games.
but keep trying to insult me with these wack ass “you broke” lines during a pandemic lol. Really makes you look like a doofus.
The whole point of that is to realize there are no good or bad characters in this world. Everyone is flawed and the outcomes are never going to be gift wrapped in a neat bow. It seems like in a MCU world where everyone is just expecting a fan service story that satisfies them, people have forgotten about storytelling like this.
Also she only truly starts acting remorseful once she starts realizing what more she has to lose around her and when she finally has to actually start torturing people herself.
my concern is, if we wanted to do this route, ala hunter x hunter s the phantom troupe like, we should have spent time as them early, instead of waiting until we're damn near done, because when it's time for s*** to go down, we'll feel the weight of our actions.
On my second playthrough, it's different, but i don't know who will play it again or stomach it
yeah man definitely
who said i was deeply passionate about this game? lol i’m giving my opinion on what i watched, i watched the entire game out of pure curiosity and boredom.
actually playing the game is a different experience that adds to it sure but i’m talking purely what the story entails.
And from watching it i guarantee you i would have been upset at wasting my money and time on this.
Not deeply passionate but how much time have you spent watching other people play and spending even more time talking about said game.
This is why $60 is a lot for you, you spending time getting no money