Worldwide Steppers growing on me now that i'm not directly infront of my speakers
dude said the song fire now that I left the room and cant hear it
I hear u maāam but youāre being disingenuous
Thatās how society is, thereās a prevailing way to think in certain communities
U really gonna act like trans people are generally accepted and respected among black people around the world?
Kendrick was speakin to niggas like Coli niggas who still use the slur in 2022. Outrage has gotten so quick this isnāt getting acknowledged
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that, I know what the song is about, I just think nobody should be forced to feel grateful, people like me are allowed to have mixed feelings about the track, I still think its an important topic and it's cool that someone of that stature is addressing it, especially in a time period like this
you can praise more than one artist????? say sike
Donda gets s*** on here all the time but ok
United In Grief isnāt getting enough love. Song is musically amazing. Nice way to start off an album.
Imagine watching We Cry Together being recorded
They was probably laughing the whole time
this is disingenuous, there are definitely examples of Drake being very honest on CLB. The Remorse a strong example
Iām not saying Drake isnāt honest
He absolutely is
But heās not this kind of honest
Like people are never gonna listen to one of those kinda drake tracks and come away feeling conflicted or angry at him or etc
Purple Hearts is the sequel to Loyalty, but he couldnt get Rihanna and didnt want SZA on it
Donda gets s*** on here all the time but ok
lol
To each itās own
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Yea. Na b
Ye's first 5 albums are classics with "MBDTF" being his masterpiece.
Kendrick has 2 classics with "SXN80" & "GKMC" & 2 masterpieces with "TPAB" & "MM&TBS". "DAMN." could be considered a classic too.
Both are GOATS, but Kendrick really hasn't missed yet & I see no sign of him slowing down since he's a master of his craft & pen game's dumb.
Kanye hasn't wow'd me with an album since "Yeezus" & is hit or miss nowadays.
But yeah, to each their own.
its different though. there's not really any culture anymore (outside of maybe the deep deep south) where using the n-word as a white person flippantly (especially in a derogatory way towards black people) is acceptable. There are many cultures where the f word is used towards gay people pretty openly to degrade them, even today.
or even as a throwaway adjective like the r word n gay -- those plus the f bomb were all used commonly in a very flippant whatever careless kinda way even like 10-15 years ago. the n word has not been accepted that fashion since times like the 50s-70s
Imagine watching We Cry Together being recorded
I wanna be a fly in that room lol
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that, I know what the song is about, I just think nobody should be forced to feel grateful, people like me are allowed to have mixed feelings about the track, I still think its an important topic and it's cool that someone of that stature is addressing it, especially in a time period like this
I respect your opinion and I did not intend to tell u how u feel I apologize
An individual also wonāt move society forward. Why are you trying to force him to? Or why are you saying you donāt like what heās doing? It does not start or end with him.
I'm not forcing him to do anything tf? Just saying i disagree w his message
whatās the point if you canāt make the music enjoyable, just write a book then
I respect Kendrick doing whatever the f*** he wanted instead of phoning it in like he did on some of the DAMN and BP songs but some of this s*** doesnāt sound good imo.
There are some dope songs on this but overall this isnāt an enjoyable listen. I listen to music to have a good time, I donāt care how impressive the concept of the album is or how honest Kendrick is on this. @Oblivion99
Itās enjoyable as f*** to me
Obviously some subject matter isnāt but musically itās dope as f*** imo
There's no trans community we're part of every culture, ethnicity, community, whatever, why do you have to make it into a trans vs black people thing when the song is about 2 beautiful black trans people?
All lives matter?
It's not about Kendrick embracing a libertarian individualism and saying that people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps
it's him acknowledging, for himself, that "the culture" sees him, as a celebrity, as a resource to be extracted from
It's cultural mercantilism: maximize the exports, minimize the imports
That's why he used the celebrity deepfakes on Heart Pt. 5
That's why he acknowledges that he wants to see all perspectives
Because he realizes that he cannot be this collective resource for "the culture" when the culture remains antagonistic to a real collectivity itself
He is expected to be the metaphorical virgin who gets thrown into the volcano
He sacrifices his individuality for the collective and we can sit behind our computer screens and criticize him and never put our money where our mouths are
So yeah, he does need to choose himself, because he's right, he's not your savior, salvation is not a hierarchical endeavor, we do it together as equals or not at all
@Scratchin_Bandit I understand and am partially sympathetic to your critique of his individual-first stance, and I wouldn't expect you to agree with that sentiment - I respect your principles -- but I don't think it's as simplistic as him just unplugging his controller and going home
Dude really thinks Kendrick is arguing from the left wing collectivist perspective.
Nah fam, heās being conservative, and at least moderate libertarian on here (which is good). Heās tired of the collective, heās tired of the group think ā which is where liberals and āprogressivesā live.
Iām not saying Drake isnāt honest
He absolutely is
But heās not this kind of honest
Like people are never gonna listen to one of those kinda drake tracks and come away feeling conflicted or angry at him or etc
Why make people feel angry at him lol
if the message of the song is that using the f word is wrong, he shouldnāt still be saying it by the end, and same goes for the misgendering part of the song
only way to interpret the song is that heās okay with using slurs & doesnāt actually respect his family membersā gender identities because he refers to them by the wrong pronouns the entire time
Consider the final line of the song
āWe can say it together, but only if you let a white girl sayā¦ā
The answer is obviously āfuck noā, and that doesnāt excuse what he said throughout the song. Thatās the point. Youāre supposed to condemn that perspective and reflect on how similar it was to your own and/or those you loveās perspectives evolving over the years. The end result is complicated, but itās obviously not an endorsement of the things he said to made the point. If anything it feels like condemning himself
After this album itās clear Kendrick need more time to himself & family
idk how happy dude actually is
Ye's first 5 albums are classics with "MBDTF" being his masterpiece.
Kendrick has 2 classics with "SXN80" & "GKMC" & 2 masterpieces with "TPAB" & "MM&TBS". "DAMN." could be considered a classic too.
Both are GOATS, but Kendrick really hasn't missed yet & I see no sign of him slowing down since he's a master of his craft & pen game's dumb.
Kanye hasn't wow'd me with an album since "Yeezus" & is hit or miss nowadays.
But yeah, to each their own.
how is sectin80 a classic