Apr 10, 2022·1 reply
ZezimaHuge debate over whether whooping your kids is justified.
Anti whoopers are trying to paint pro whoppers as evil for believing in controlled physical discipline of a child when they overstep their boundaries.
Pro whippers are trying to rationalize the decision to have to physically discipline your child.
Obviously one of the prime debates of the past 20-30 years. Only crappy thing is a lot of anti-whoopers are on their cancel energy over a difference of opinion.
I think their is room for both methodologies as both mindset are needed. Whooping isn’t the only answer, but never whooping is hardly ever the answer as well.
I’ve personally noticed that a lot of kids who were whooped excessively like myself might have trauma fueling their opinion, which in my opinion is not a healthy way to win a debate.
A lot of kids were also never touched in that manner and maybe only got timeouts, grounded/punishment, etc, but alot of those kids never learn how to behave and end up getting taught some hard lessons later in life.
Neither side is 100% right or wrong. In my opinion, we do need to be more creative in how we disciple our kids, but it doesn’t mean a whooping shouldn’t be a last resort of little Timmy is really off his rocker and needs to extra tough love.
It’s not even about right or wrong lol threads like this always devolve into person A trying to put 100% effort into proving person B wrong by any means necessary which doesn’t create any type of meaningful discussion
- Apr 10, 2022·1 reply
JonboiBullshit. Kids are way smarter than people give them credit for. And adults are way stupider. I’m just hearing a bunch of anecdotal evidence tho. Is this something you’ve researched or do you not trust the research?
positive punishment (aka applying a negative stimulus such as pain to prevent behaviors from becoming common) is literally the least effective way of shaping behaviors
people just saying anecdotes 
Apr 10, 2022
whippet volversei think the point that ppl have is that there are other ways to instill the idea of consequences other than beating your kid severely. I don't know if your brother really got helped by the fact that he got a whooping or the fact that he was facing time in prison and realized that he could really f*** his life up forever if he didn't change. Hitting your kids is only necessary for really young kids that talking to doesn't work for imo.
He like 15-16 and she’s been trying to talk to him for sometime now.
If you try to talk peacefully it’s in one ear out the other.
Yell and he won’t listen at all.
It’s crazy this Nigga was Pushing It to the Limit listening to Corbin Blue. Now he wylin’.
You can only talk so much when your kid sees their teachers and friends more than you (the parent). How much influence can you have over a child for those 16 years if you working 2-10 5 days a week?
Apr 10, 2022·2 replies
BrunsonEggNCheeseObviously there's other factors that play into it but it sounds like you had it rough from your parents. Like I said earlier, if youre traumatized by your whoopings as a kid then your parents didnt do it right and were too hard. Its not supposed to be like that.
I'm traumatized more from the actual child abuse I received more than the beatings.
Said itt earlier there's a major difference between the two and I've learned the difference. However I still wouldn't physically discipline my children because even that wouldn't stop me from acting up.
- Apr 10, 2022Smacked Voodoo
I'm traumatized more from the actual child abuse I received more than the beatings.
Said itt earlier there's a major difference between the two and I've learned the difference. However I still wouldn't physically discipline my children because even that wouldn't stop me from acting up.
yeah most kids who got their ass whopped probably still acted up lol
- Apr 10, 2022·1 replywhippet volverse
people think that making your kid fear you through violence and screaming is good parenting, because that's what their parents did to them and "I turned out fine"
it's a toxic cycle of abuse bc your experience normalizes itThere is huge difference between being a toxic abusive parent who screams and hits their kid without good reasoning and to project their own problems in life, and a parent who practices multiple forms of disciple (including whooping when absolutely necessary) in a responsible humane way.
It can’t be painted all with one stroke just because you’re triggered bro. Life isn’t black and white and you aren’t doing yourself any favors by acting like it is. There is almost always middle ground except with extreme things like cold blooded murder, rape, etc.
Broaden your horizons simply
Apr 10, 2022Smacked VoodooI'm traumatized more from the actual child abuse I received more than the beatings.
Said itt earlier there's a major difference between the two and I've learned the difference. However I still wouldn't physically discipline my children because even that wouldn't stop me from acting up.
Apr 10, 2022·1 replyWhooping ur kids lame af. If u need to do it, first learn how to parent a child
Apr 10, 2022blondedpositive punishment (aka applying a negative stimulus such as pain to prevent behaviors from becoming common) is literally the least effective way of shaping behaviors
people just saying anecdotes
- Apr 10, 2022
Kodak’s judgement is wrong. It’s not Willows fault for writing the letter, that first falls on Will who allows certain behaviors from his wife. Their relationship dynamic is too transparent with their kids.
Many parents don’t argue in front of their children for this same reason. Being an immature kid, you’re looking to digest this tough information and it comes out in various ways. Writing that letter is a form of it.
- Apr 10, 2022
You know she could get pregnant.
And you still rawdog her.So then you MUST understand how the threat of something awful happening doesn’t always outweigh the thrill of doing the bad thing. Adults have this problem too.
Lessons are not learned quick.
They take time.
They take a lot of f***ing error. - Apr 10, 2022·2 repliesDevilOrAngel
It’s not even about right or wrong lol threads like this always devolve into person A trying to put 100% effort into proving person B wrong by any means necessary which doesn’t create any type of meaningful discussion
Well yeah that’s kind of my point.
This generation gets off by trying to cancel and ostracize people that think differently than them, rather than just having meaningful discussion and healthy debate that might lead both sides to a better conclusion.
I’m okay with anti and pro whoopers, but we have to learn how to talk to eachother if you ever expect the side your against to ever respect your argument.
The biggest problem with the cancel/ostracize energy is it usually only pushes people further away from what you want them to believe. If you truly want people to respect your position and maybe change theirs, then you have to be more civil in debates and show respect.
The whole your wrong and you should be banned and castrated doesn’t help anything, it makes it worse.
- Apr 10, 2022Zezima
There is huge difference between being a toxic abusive parent who screams and hits their kid without good reasoning and to project their own problems in life, and a parent who practices multiple forms of disciple (including whooping when absolutely necessary) in a responsible humane way.
It can’t be painted all with one stroke just because you’re triggered bro. Life isn’t black and white and you aren’t doing yourself any favors by acting like it is. There is almost always middle ground except with extreme things like cold blooded murder, rape, etc.
Broaden your horizons simply
haha why am i "triggered"?
i never said there was no place for it, just that it's not as effective as people believe 
Apr 10, 2022·2 repliesI ask my friend his thoughts and he just quoted Matt Barnes:
“Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is”
- Apr 10, 2022·2 repliesZezima
Well yeah that’s kind of my point.
This generation gets off by trying to cancel and ostracize people that think differently than them, rather than just having meaningful discussion and healthy debate that might lead both sides to a better conclusion.
I’m okay with anti and pro whoopers, but we have to learn how to talk to eachother if you ever expect the side your against to ever respect your argument.
The biggest problem with the cancel/ostracize energy is it usually only pushes people further away from what you want them to believe. If you truly want people to respect your position and maybe change theirs, then you have to be more civil in debates and show respect.
The whole your wrong and you should be banned and castrated doesn’t help anything, it makes it worse.
Have people ITT really been saying that pro whoppers should get canceled / banned? I didn’t see that, but I haven’t tuned into the whole thread.
Apr 10, 2022I got whoopins as a kid and literally grew up to be a heathen
- Apr 10, 2022
Empathy>>>Violence
- Apr 10, 2022·1 replyJonboi
What makes you so sure? Did they try emotional honesty?
yeah i was sat down a few times and told not to be around those kids so i tried making new friends and those new friends got caught up in the same type of bad behaviours lmao im 32 now and thinking bad like "damn my mum was really struggling with us"
i have a brother 2 years younger and he got into even worse s*** as a teenager BECAUSE he was disciplined less than i was
- Apr 10, 2022SaintJitterxburgFL
I ask my friend his thoughts and he just quoted Matt Barnes:
“Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is”
I always wondered how he managed to stay angry during the whole 4 hour drive up there to beat up Derek fisher
Like what was his playlist
- Apr 10, 2022SaintJitterxburgFL
Some of y’all never slap boxed with ur pops in the backyard over something said at the dinner table and it shows
e t 👽Apr 10, 2022·1 replyPhysical consequences for actions can be appropriate. If your kid bites you, for example, you bite them back. Just one time, to show that biting hurts. Humans develop by learning actions have consequences like touching a hot stove for the first time. People in here acting like a smack causes lifelong trauma and creates sociopaths are nuts. Every single successful person over the age of 30 today has probably been spanked or smacked as a child. It becomes abuse when it actually causes physical harm or it’s the go to response by the parent for everything. Like you obviously don’t hit a child for spilling a glass of water.
- Apr 10, 2022·edited·1 replycigaM
yeah i was sat down a few times and told not to be around those kids so i tried making new friends and those new friends got caught up in the same type of bad behaviours lmao im 32 now and thinking bad like "damn my mum was really struggling with us"
i have a brother 2 years younger and he got into even worse s*** as a teenager BECAUSE he was disciplined less than i was
Interesting. That’s not the same thing as emotional honesty. What I’m talking about would be more like, your parents explaining their sadness, their depression, explaining the sadness of the kids in your neighborhood, explaining empathy, explaining the cycle of violence. Would you say you feel very strongly that your fear of pain was so intense that it prevented you from doing harmful s***?
- Apr 10, 2022
spanking isnt just physical discipline
if done over the knee, bare ass out, that s*** feels embarrassing and the lack of control in the moment also feels really bad
it should help u learn from the mistakes u keep repeating
- Apr 10, 2022·1 replye t
Physical consequences for actions can be appropriate. If your kid bites you, for example, you bite them back. Just one time, to show that biting hurts. Humans develop by learning actions have consequences like touching a hot stove for the first time. People in here acting like a smack causes lifelong trauma and creates sociopaths are nuts. Every single successful person over the age of 30 today has probably been spanked or smacked as a child. It becomes abuse when it actually causes physical harm or it’s the go to response by the parent for everything. Like you obviously don’t hit a child for spilling a glass of water.
I think kids know that painful s*** hurts.
- Apr 10, 2022
eye contactIf beating children is the best way you can get your point across to them you should be castrated in public
someones dad couldnt control himself
