Once again just complete idiocy from you. Tell me, what actions in this sense would have you satisfied?

And I imagine it'll be as effective as voting your way to salvation

have fun in your drum circles bro

get commies to be pragmatic challenge (impossible)

So you can't tell me. Because in truth no matter what I said you'd have the same reaction because you have no idea how any of this s*** actually works. But you don't have to because you can just vote every 4 years and feel real good inside

You don't know what pragmatic means. The pragmatic thing to do is to do what you can. Not go off on some f***ing adventuristic bullshit and try to start a revolution day one lmfao

yeah im sure everyone will clap when u say this at the circle

Lmao you're such a little clown but given your history not surprising

im saying the pragmatic thing to do is vote not whine and yes it's obviously gonna be more effective

Whine lol sure and yup voting has been so very effective throughout American history that it has in fact brought us to this exact moment.

i mean Yes? trump is in power because of voting that kind of proves my point of how powerful it is, no?

So why does nothing good ever come of voting? Why is everyone we vote for always a war criminal who promotes genocide? Why after all these years of voting does the suffering of marginalized, minority, and poor communities persist?

do u think maga people feel the same way? (the ones not out of the cult yet)

no, they're cheering cause they see that the dude they voted for is doing exactly what they want

we can have that too with the right person

What a f***ing loser response to his post holy s*** youre a f***ing idiot

another commie living in a dream world

im sorry dude but your full space communism is not happening by 2028

we got bigger problems that aren't gonna be solved by drum circles

or deleting facebook and reading

Who is the right person lmao? Who is this magical savior

i dont know why do i need a perfect plan but yall can just say oh dude read a book

if trump can do it theres a progressive populist who can

And who is we? Your brain so fried that you think democrats actually care about doing what people want??

Yeah because organizing is some sort of utopian ideal that doesnt result in anything except its the reason we got the 8 hour workday and eliminated child labor (for the most part)

Everything we came to be privileged by came by organizations putting pressure.

But you're too f***ing stupid to realize class is a thing and keep projecting these arguments no one is making because you can't f***ing read

Oh and im the one living in fantasy land lmao you've been asking me to elaborate on my plan for pages. So where is this progressive populist candidate? Last time there was one he lost in part because the whole party coalesced to stop him.

So who are you voting for in 2028 that's going to fix things

I don't know if you feel backed into a corner and i don't care to press you further on it because this conversation is becoming useless if thats your response to people saying organizing is a necessary thing to help each other

You're really f***ing stupid if thats the case and u need to figure something out

ok which politicans are you pressuring and how

i dunno dude it depends on the material conditions

Sanitation workers in Philly are on strike right now for one example, trash is piling up all throughout the city and the situation is getting worse and worse

They're using this powerful leverage to negotiate better contracts

whyy.org/articles/philadelphia-city-workers-union-contract-negotiations-strike-mayor-cherelle-parker

one example of labor organizing being able to put pressure on the city officials