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  • Jul 5, 2024
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    mr get dough

    Anybody who was debating Dot being top 10 before this s*** isn’t a nigga whose worth debating with frfr. Dot solidified himself as top 10 ever with DAMN. imo but I woulda had him in my top 10 in 2015 tbh. Atp Dot chasing #1 and its looking hella possible

    But I think a much more interesting question is where does Drake rank all time now? Im genuinely curious as to what yall think

    He might be top 20-25 for me now.

    I’ll always respect his run from Take Care-IYRTITL and his commercial dominance is respectable but the fact he still heavily uses ghostwriters to this day just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. And it wasn’t like he was getting help with some co-writing, he had dudes like Vory and Yachty doing whole references for him.

    Never could be the greatest for me off of that alone.

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    The video was kinda mid ngl should have just left it as a single

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    mos def

    There’s definitely an argument to be made that he is the Goat even before this battle

    When you compare careers of the top MCs, Kendrick is the only one whose never really had a steep drop off in terms of lyrical ability/quality, beat riding, breathe control etc. in fact he’s the only one whose skill trajectory has only increased since the start.

    Nas, Em, Lupe etc have all had luls somewhere in their careers where they dropped consecutive duds. Kendrick has not

    That leaves Jay and Kendrick

    Ima let time decide that one but i think it’s pretty clear that Kendrick is still getting better and improving which is borderline unheard of for someone this deep on their rap career

    my greatest rappers list is different and dot is still top 5 on that probably top 3

    but top 5 rappers i personally enjoy most, not just lyrically but overall music

    dot, pac, tyler, ye, hov

  • Jul 5, 2024
    Bro0o0ses

    You terrify me.

    my outlook on the world has changed ever since i embraced positivity.

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    WESLEYS THEORY

    He might be top 20-25 for me now.

    I’ll always respect his run from Take Care-IYRTITL and his commercial dominance is respectable but the fact he still heavily uses ghostwriters to this day just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. And it wasn’t like he was getting help with some co-writing, he had dudes like Vory and Yachty doing whole references for him.

    Never could be the greatest for me off of that alone.

    Where did u have him all time pre this beef?

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    I don’t know why but I really thought dot was about to choke the life outta that owl

    My mind keeps running to that s***

  • Jul 5, 2024
    NewCopeJustDropped

    I don’t know why but I really thought dot was about to choke the life outta that owl

    My mind keeps running to that s***

    He cant do that man

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    SignedTwice

    I’m good on a Black Hippy remix for this, give us some new s*** if they’re going to collab

    Yall really dying to hear Ab-Soul on this beat?

    There’s part of me that wants to say I’ve had enough of NLU and it’s time to move on

    But at the same time I want Kendrick to drag it on forever just for the shambles

  • Jul 5, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    I was trolling. 2014 was WOAT lmao

    I was gonna say

  • Jul 5, 2024
    SignedTwice

    I’m good on a Black Hippy remix for this, give us some new s*** if they’re going to collab

    Yall really dying to hear Ab-Soul on this beat?

    id take ab soul on this beat bc i am dying to hear Jay Rock on it lol

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    notbrock

    There’s part of me that wants to say I’ve had enough of NLU and it’s time to move on

    But at the same time I want Kendrick to drag it on forever just for the shambles

    I’ve been saying the video & the pop out wasn’t dragging it on and was fine to cement the W but a whole remix for it would be doing too much imo

  • Jul 5, 2024
    mr get dough

    Where did u have him all time pre this beef?

    Lower top 10

    I really thought he stopped using writers after the Quentin s***. And I was willing to overlook it because everybody in the industry or most everybody has probably gotten help on writing at some point.

    But to still have people making whole references for him and to blatantly lie about so many things? Yeah I lost some respect Ngl.

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    Who was the insider who correctly predicted the lyrics of the snippet in the intro

  • mos def 🪐
    Jul 5, 2024
    mr get dough

    my greatest rappers list is different and dot is still top 5 on that probably top 3

    but top 5 rappers i personally enjoy most, not just lyrically but overall music

    dot, pac, tyler, ye, hov

    I respect it family

    I have 2 different top 10 lists: personal top 10 and a general objective top 10

    My personal one is a lot different that the one mentioned in the previous post

  • Jul 5, 2024

    Anyone ID all the fits he’s wearing? Man is dripped out

  • paper and pencil

    guys, the songs were good. Thats kinda the point here.

    You're right that in the entertainment business, the entertainment aspect is usually to cater to the largest audience possible. But you can't really say what's to be entertaining to who. So many niche artists who are praised are overlooked, just like some artists get all the attention but mostly considered "fast food." This s*** don't matter if you like what you like. Look:

    This came out in 1967 and was covering some groundbreaking stuff at the time like d*** use and BDSM on wax. It has inspired musicians who have gone on to make succesful albums, but this album had awful, awful sales. It's still a cult classic. Now look here:

    Sold like gangbusters, but is Hammer that respected in rap today?

  • mos def 🪐
    Jul 5, 2024
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    Any rappers with extensive ghostwriter use don’t make my top MC list

  • mos def 🪐
    Jul 5, 2024
    NewCopeJustDropped

    I don’t know why but I really thought dot was about to choke the life outta that owl

    My mind keeps running to that s***

  • Jul 5, 2024
    mos def

    Any rappers with extensive ghostwriter use don’t make my top MC list

    Absolutely 💯

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    Sell

    The video was kinda mid ngl should have just left it as a single

    not when the whites teamed up to block it from #1

  • Jul 5, 2024
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    SignedTwice

    I’m good on a Black Hippy remix for this, give us some new s*** if they’re going to collab

    Yall really dying to hear Ab-Soul on this beat?

    you act like he can't get down on this

  • Jul 5, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    Brotha on threads who initally thought the video was mid put into words better than me why this video was so much better than if he had just did a “hit em up” style type of mv

    @CliCity @Mitchell @SegaDreamFlash @bluemagic @Nikedufflebag @ChiraqPalestine

    Damn that was so beautifully written

  • Jul 5, 2024
    fancy lacriminal

    you act like he can't get down on this

    He can sound good on it but this isn’t his strength, I’d be more curious to hear a new Kendrick x Soul song

  • Jul 5, 2024
    fancy lacriminal

    you act like he can't get down on this

    he needs to give ab soul a hit asap, it was sad he had nothing to play at the pop out

  • Jul 5, 2024
    SignedTwice

    I’ve been saying the video & the pop out wasn’t dragging it on and was fine to cement the W but a whole remix for it would be doing too much imo

    If it’s fire I ain’t complaining