I think I love the music so much bc that was probably the 2nd best year of my life so far
But I feel u, canāt relate to the 2016 hype at all my life was so trash that year lol
2015 was a worse year for me than 2016 but 2015 had the most classics imo
2016 overhyped
This feels like the end of a chapter.
I donāt know why but the video was the credits.
Rap will never be the same.
Thank you Mr. Lamar
Yeah ready for a full release of the snippet and the album rollout now
Donāt get smart with the replies because you thought some of yall could just say all this label approved flap when some of us actually listen to the music as is.
The āthemeā nonsense is sheer marketing gimmick to allow artists to have extra perceived depth to their music and to paper over faults in the songs.
There were no themed albums in the 70s or 80s. Now you gotta fill out albums in the 90s or 2000s to justify the purchases by claiming theres a theme to equate it to reading a novel.
Stop this insanity.
Either you like the music or you donāt.
There were no themed albums in the 70s or 80s
You donāt know jack s***. Just stop posting.
He in my top 5 man
Iām just saying if there was ANY subjective doubt at this point, the beef completely deaded it.
Anybody who was debating Dot being top 10 before this s*** isnāt a nigga whose worth debating with frfr. Dot solidified himself as top 10 ever with DAMN. imo but I woulda had him in my top 10 in 2015 tbh. Atp Dot chasing #1 and its looking hella possible
But I think a much more interesting question is where does Drake rank all time now? Im genuinely curious as to what yall think
2015 was a worse year for me than 2016 but 2015 had the most classics imo
2016 overhyped
2009 and 2014>>>>>>>
Thatās why I said minimum family
He definitely top 5
Heās been in my personal top 3 for years now
Bro really top 1 to me, him and pac is battling for me i think
If you canāt appreciate the songs, then pretending that theres a theme that itself isnāt there in the songs or to excuse the song quality to help you paper over how much you should be telling yourself to enjoy it is itself cope.
Itās a good thing that the majority of us here enjoy the album regardless of themes then
We donāt enjoy the album BECAUSE of its content and ideas, we enjoy it because of its execution. Providing context for those songs isnāt an indicator of how good or not good the album is. Itās a heavy album with alot of unpack
Brotha on threads who initally thought the video was mid put into words better than me why this video was so much better than if he had just did a āhit em upā style type of mv



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Only thing about this is that Drake loves feeling persecuted so he definitely is finna run with the "You niggas tried to kill me but I lived" faceass
Some people love a challenge, whether it's a difficult sport, or French Extreme cinema, or even literary fiction novels. Nothing wrong with that.
Cinema and novels themselves arenāt chapters or individualized selections. Theyāre complete works. Musicians especially rappers with superficial content that carries the burden of trying to be more poetic than it really is tries to sell audiences undue worth by telling them that theyāre engaged in some deeper subversive project.
Thats why people wonāt accept Drake albums have āthemesā but Kendricks are just these unassailable complete masterpieces of storytelling.
Which is it?
Itās a good thing that the majority of us here enjoy the album regardless of themes then
We donāt enjoy the album BECAUSE of its content and ideas, we enjoy it because of its execution. Providing context for those songs isnāt an indicator of how good or not good the album is. Itās a heavy album with alot of unpack
He believes the idea of art having themes and ideas and a consistent messaging is a new gimmick unique to the 2010s thereās no point responding lol
Donāt get smart with the replies because you thought some of yall could just say all this label approved flap when some of us actually listen to the music as is.
The āthemeā nonsense is sheer marketing gimmick to allow artists to have extra perceived depth to their music and to paper over faults in the songs.
There were no themed albums in the 70s or 80s. Now you gotta fill out albums in the 90s or 2000s to justify the purchases by claiming theres a theme to equate it to reading a novel.
Stop this insanity.
Either you like the music or you donāt.
Answer the questions Mr. Charlie or Sambeaux if ya nastyā¦
Are you, by chance, an A&R?
Do you, by chance, enjoy mountain climbing?
Do you also, by chance, enjoy playing an electric guitar?
2015 was a worse year for me than 2016 but 2015 had the most classics imo
2016 overhyped
Yeah bro TPAB, Alla, Rodeo, I Donāt Like S***, Cherry Bomb, DS2, IYRTITL, GO:OD AM etc in rap alone was crazy for one year
Cinema and novels themselves arenāt chapters or individualized selections. Theyāre complete works. Musicians especially rappers with superficial content that carries the burden of trying to be more poetic than it really is tries to sell audiences undue worth by telling them that theyāre engaged in some deeper subversive project.
Thats why people wonāt accept Drake albums have āthemesā but Kendricks are just these unassailable complete masterpieces of storytelling.
Which is it?
Bro we not even talking about Drake here
Donāt get smart with the replies because you thought some of yall could just say all this label approved flap when some of us actually listen to the music as is.
The āthemeā nonsense is sheer marketing gimmick to allow artists to have extra perceived depth to their music and to paper over faults in the songs.
There were no themed albums in the 70s or 80s. Now you gotta fill out albums in the 90s or 2000s to justify the purchases by claiming theres a theme to equate it to reading a novel.
Stop this insanity.
Either you like the music or you donāt.
Concept albums are not new. Sgt Peppers came out in 1967. Pink Floyd claim to fame were their concept albums in the 1970s
Dude just learned what themes are in Literature 101 and is using it to trash Kendrick, high school gets easier bro :jordanlaff3:
Itās a good thing that the majority of us here enjoy the album regardless of themes then
We donāt enjoy the album BECAUSE of its content and ideas, we enjoy it because of its execution. Providing context for those songs isnāt an indicator of how good or not good the album is. Itās a heavy album with alot of unpack
But yall dont say that. Yall talk about this āthemeā instead of the songs themselves. Then you run back to the them as if you werenāt doing so to evade addressing the songs in the first place.
The album was a complete miss and you donāt have the heart to say soā¦
Lemme guess, Pulitzer, right?
He saic there were no themed albums in the 70s or 80s.
No way
Dude just learned what themes are in Literature 101 and is using it to trash Kendrick, high school gets easier bro :jordanlaff3:
Some of us with post-grad degrees see through the hifalutin snark
This feels like the end of a chapter.
I donāt know why but the video was the credits.
Rap will never be the same.
Thank you Mr. Lamar
To me the Pop Out show was the credits, and this video is the after credits
But yea definitely feels like a finale for an entire era of hip hop that weāll never see again
Yeah. 2017 was one of the worst years of my life but the music was classic
was such a goat year
Some of us with post-grad degrees see through the hifalutin snark
You know themes just means ideas right?
Concept albums are not new. Sgt Peppers came out in 1967. Pink Floyd claim to fame were their concept albums in the 1970s
a tightly unified album is different from a āthemedā album.
Yall just using that excuse when you canāt defend the music.
Thats where all this ābodies of workā cope BS keeps lingering around.
Some of us with post-grad degrees see through the hifalutin snark
remember what Kanye said yall?
But yall dont say that. Yall talk about this āthemeā instead of the songs themselves. Then you run back to the them as if you werenāt doing so to evade addressing the songs in the first place.
The album was a complete miss and you donāt have the heart to say soā¦
Lemme guess, Pulitzer, right?
Why are you trying to speak for all of us and what we liked or enjoyed about the album?
YOU, subjectively didnāt like it. Thatās fine. You arenāt wrong for it not resonating with you, but Stop trying to put words in our mouth or act like it isnt good because the content and themes are discussed more then your average collection of songs put together as an album.