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  • Dec 21, 2025
    TheFader
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/2002834291672437225

    LMAOOOOOO

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    Gosh

    So the fan base that passionately hates bots is gonna go on a 2 year smear campaign right or nah?

    If it was Kendrick or a Kendrick associate this thread would be moving a mile a min rn

  • Gosh 😹
    Dec 21, 2025
    Laced

    If it was Kendrick or a Kendrick associate this thread would be moving a mile a min rn

    Not even just Kendrick, anything Kendrick adjacent as well

    So sad how that fan base was grifted to hell

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    serenade

    i think natural decline and growing disinterest in rap music are both factors. i just find it hard to believe they account entirely for a 61% drop in streams (169m to 65m) between january 2024 and december 2025.

    only reason i can think of that doesn't involve botting is the boost he got from her loss. maybe if that album never happens, there's a more gradual decline from savage mode 2 --> AD --> WHTTS?. that could be it tbh.

    Nah, Savage Mode II did 200M streams first week.

    The 169M for american dream was the natural decline.

    169M -> 65M is just a complete fall off

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    TheFader

    Nah, Savage Mode II did 200M streams first week.

    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1315425308066148353

    The 169M for american dream was the natural decline.

    169M -> 65M is just a complete fall off

    People are tired of rap man it's so obvious

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    mov

    People are tired of rap man it's so obvious

    I think people are tired of repetitive, uninspired rap.

    Genuinely curious how this is going to affect Iceman’s first week numbers if Drake’s recent output is anything to go by

  • Dec 21, 2025
    mov

    People are tired of rap man it's so obvious

    *trap and government mandated features

  • Dec 21, 2025

    Bro actually got caught

  • Dec 21, 2025
    serenade

    i think natural decline and growing disinterest in rap music are both factors. i just find it hard to believe they account entirely for a 61% drop in streams (169m to 65m) between january 2024 and december 2025.

    only reason i can think of that doesn't involve botting is the boost he got from her loss. maybe if that album never happens, there's a more gradual decline from savage mode 2 --> AD --> WHTTS?. that could be it tbh.

    Natural decline & Trap being past its shelf life as a sub genre.

    Rap has yet to have any subgenre or sound truly replace Trap yet though, so now all the 2010s rappers are on their way out + having huge declines with no 2020s rappers to replace them. So on paper the genre is just crumbling in general.

    21/Future/Gunna/Cardi/Migos/etc late 2010s s*** was always gonna eventually decline and be on its way out. That wasn’t timeless music whatsoever.

    It’s just the fact nothing has came to replace that is crazy. Should be a bunch of new rappers with different sounds.

    But these newish rappers still tryna chase that sound and dumb rap music down further

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    Dec 21, 2025
    TheFader

    I think people are tired of repetitive, uninspired rap.

    Genuinely curious how this is going to affect Iceman’s first week numbers if Drake’s recent output is anything to go by

    Man should’ve had those pre orders available the day iceman was announced tbh

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    Future next album probably gonna be the next big Rap flop

  • Dec 21, 2025

    Definitely tiredness, but is it the type of tiredness from exhaustion or the type of tiredness from a lack of productivity, ie laying down all day and not boosting energy?

  • Dec 21, 2025

    Y’all think Drake is gonna stop being his friend and launch a whole lawsuit against the industry using 21 as the main example?

    Remember he’s fighting the corrupt industry for the little guys

  • Dec 21, 2025

    Shoutout 21

  • Dec 21, 2025

    12 track album with 10 weeks at #1

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    iHype

    Future next album probably gonna be the next big Rap flop

    Future will never flop

  • Dec 21, 2025
    Valentine

    All I Want For Christmas is played in every household gang

    nobody saying turn on that Wham!

    ntm

  • Dec 21, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    Future will never flop

    This will age like milk unfortunately

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    iHype

    Future next album probably gonna be the next big Rap flop

    Future’s been doing 100K+ first week for a decade straight, his audience is solidified

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    TheFader

    Future’s been doing 100K+ first week for a decade straight, his audience is solidified

    Probably the only one in that scene that has respect from all age levels. Everybody f***s with future

  • Dec 21, 2025
    Laced

    Probably the only one in that scene that has respect from all age levels. Everybody f***s with future

    Yeah he’s been commercially successful for 15 straight years, he ain’t going anywhere

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    omg can u IMAGINE if doechii got caught pulling some s*** like this for her debut album

  • Dec 21, 2025
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    TheFader
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/2002834291672437225

    What this mean

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    Dec 21, 2025
    jynth

    omg can u IMAGINE if doechii got caught pulling some s*** like this for her debut album

    It would be a f***in WRAP

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    Laced

    Probably the only one in that scene that has respect from all age levels. Everybody f***s with future

    Future too cold to suddenly fall off

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