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  • Oct 18, 2025
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    BRAVE

    And there’s something else that needs to be mentioned: 21 is on that level because the WHOLE ALBUM - regardless of singles - is notably a great album alongside the S tier commercial and cultural and academic cache it has for EVERYONE

    Again that’s rare air. That’s Thriller/Rumours/SNF

    Yeah there are numerous 21st Century albums that fit this criteria

    I think you’re just excluding them because 21 sold more records on paper

  • 21 (Australian Bonus Track Version) is elite

  • Oct 18, 2025
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    Be honest: absolutely nobody is thinking of Adele or 21 if you were to ask them what the most popular & culturally defining album of the 21st Century is

    It’s not like Thriller in that regard whatsoever

  • Oct 18, 2025
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    3.6m falloff week 2? taylor “bundle” swift strikes again

  • TheFader

    Be honest: absolutely nobody is thinking of Adele or 21 if you were to ask them what the most popular & culturally defining album of the 21st Century is

    It’s not like Thriller in that regard whatsoever

    Yes, everybody knows it's either Scorpion or 1989

  • ICEMAN KIR

    3.6m falloff week 2? taylor “bundle” swift strikes again

    Bundlor Grift has the record now

  • Oct 18, 2025
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    TheFader

    Be honest: absolutely nobody is thinking of Adele or 21 if you were to ask them what the most popular & culturally defining album of the 21st Century is

    It’s not like Thriller in that regard whatsoever

    Given that album discourse nowadays is a completely different realm due to album apathy wedging a gap between literal album engagement and album cultural discussion, nobody is naming any album that doesn’t have an iconic name + visual component on its own

    If you asked this question, the realistic answer would be something like Brat - not 21 or any of the other mega albums this century apart from like Get Rich or Die Tryin

  • Oct 18, 2025
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    TheFader

    Be honest: absolutely nobody is thinking of Adele or 21 if you were to ask them what the most popular & culturally defining album of the 21st Century is

    It’s not like Thriller in that regard whatsoever

    If you ask people about the "biggest", many will definitely mention Adele

    Her name is associated with massive sales

  • Oct 18, 2025
    TheFader

    Yeah there are numerous 21st Century albums that fit this criteria

    I think you’re just excluding them because 21 sold more records on paper

    If it was just about numbers on paper and not all the countless other s*** I’ve been saying this whole time, I wouldn’t have made the post and these pages wouldn’t exist

  • Oct 18, 2025
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    Since we are talking about it, with these new certifications Doo-Wops & Hooligans is now the best selling era in US history with 79M units

    It's an album with 11 tracks and only 3 singles in the US, btw

    These 3 singles are all diamond certified, with the first one being 21x Platinum

    Deep cuts like Count On Me and Talking To The Moon are 5x and 7x Platinum, respectively

    Its also the the third longest charting album in history, behind only The Dark Side of The Moon and Metallica

    I'm not being hyperbolic when I say its the biggest pop era since Thriller (if we are not counting 21 as pop)

  • Oct 18, 2025
    BRAVE

    Given that album discourse nowadays is a completely different realm due to album apathy wedging a gap between literal album engagement and album cultural discussion, nobody is naming any album that doesn’t have an iconic name + visual component on its own

    If you asked this question, the realistic answer would be something like Brat - not 21 or any of the other mega albums this century apart from like Get Rich or Die Tryin

    Nobody would call Brat the biggest album of the CENTURY, that’s ridiculous

  • Oct 18, 2025
    jack johnson

    If you ask people about the "biggest", many will definitely mention Adele

    Her name is associated with massive sales

    They really wouldn’t though

  • Oct 18, 2025
    jack johnson

    Since we are talking about it, with these new certifications Doo-Wops & Hooligans is now the best selling era in US history with 79M units

    It's an album with 11 tracks and only 3 singles in the US, btw

    These 3 singles are all diamond certified, with the first one being 21x Platinum

    Deep cuts like Count On Me and Talking To The Moon are 5x and 7x Platinum, respectively

    Its also the the third longest charting album in history, behind only The Dark Side of The Moon and Metallica

    I'm not being hyperbolic when I say its the biggest pop era since Thriller (if we are not counting 21 as pop)

    The singles off the album are definitely some of the biggest of this century, that's for sure.

  • Oct 19, 2025
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    Oct 19, 2025
    Mafia Boss

    ice spice now french montana/Nav tier

    https://twitter.com/Loud_baby1/status/1978749941464850833

    What did nav do man.

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    Oct 19, 2025
    aLIEN

    Adele is a great singer

    Need the Adele cochlear implant

  • Oct 19, 2025
    Noir

    Taylor’s numbers are incredible for sure. Hardly anyone is doing 500k anymore, let alone 4 million.

    But yeah she’s not actually being listened to by 700% more people than every other artist on earth, like that sales figure implies. Her streaming numbers are huge but not that far out of line with the rest of the mainstream.

    That's what I realized when it said she did 500K streaming

    That's pretty in line with what an A-List rapper could do with good promotion

  • Oct 19, 2025
    TheFader

    Doo Wops & Hooligans has one Double Diamond Diamond song, another at 16x Platinum, and one more at Diamond

    Bruno is lowkey the biggest and most consistent artist of the century so far.

    He takes long breaks like Adele and comes back even bigger than before. Nobody thought APT and DWAS would smash like that. And so effortlessly.

  • Oct 19, 2025

    21 was a fluke just like Norah Jones' success was in the early 2000s.

  • Oct 19, 2025
    TheFader

    Be honest: absolutely nobody is thinking of Adele or 21 if you were to ask them what the most popular & culturally defining album of the 21st Century is

    It’s not like Thriller in that regard whatsoever

    Teenage Dream is lowkey the most iconic era for the millennials. Everyone remembers at least a part of it.

    Confessions left a huge mark too.

  • Oct 19, 2025
    jack johnson

    Since we are talking about it, with these new certifications Doo-Wops & Hooligans is now the best selling era in US history with 79M units

    It's an album with 11 tracks and only 3 singles in the US, btw

    These 3 singles are all diamond certified, with the first one being 21x Platinum

    Deep cuts like Count On Me and Talking To The Moon are 5x and 7x Platinum, respectively

    Its also the the third longest charting album in history, behind only The Dark Side of The Moon and Metallica

    I'm not being hyperbolic when I say its the biggest pop era since Thriller (if we are not counting 21 as pop)

    Holy FVCK!!!

    But at the time, it didn't seem 'bigger' than other parallel album campaigns like Teenage Dream, Born This Way and all those others. There was so much healthy competition in 2011. Now there's just 1 or 2 huge artists at the top and the rest is playing catchup.

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    TTPD was bigger than TLOAS.

  • Oct 19, 2025
    jack johnson

    TTPD was bigger than TLOAS.

    Neither got played outside

  • Oct 19, 2025
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    You can't even buy the songs

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