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  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 5, 2025
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    Big Dog

    Meanwhile its not even top 100 biggest albums of all time. No ones going to remember it next week. S***.. no one even remembers it now. Makes zero sense.

    Look at you so close to understanding why nobody gives a f*** about who has the most streams and why it doesn’t dictate who’s better than who

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    serenade

    unrelated, but these insane pure sales lately have me more convinced than ever that travis is gonna contend for 1m+ with his next album. he's studying the tactics and will employ them to maximum effect.

    DBR pulling 331k pure was only the beginning.

    Are you serious or trolling? Taylor swift sells a lot of bundle/vinyl bullcrap bc her audience is girls ranging from 4 years old to 35. They buy music like no tomorrow and taylor is their lord and savior. Travis hit his peak with astroworld.

  • Oct 5, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    I don’t even like Taylor swift but she is someone who has literally dedicated the majority of her life towards music so saying she doesn’t value music or art is a bit ridiculous imo.

    Especially when the thing you’re upset about it her selling more music

    She’s valued it less, after she realized how big her fandom is.

    The only thing I’m upset with about her is that she continues to release the album and then releases versions of the album that are demos. That’s not an artist who’s proud of their work.

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    Label CEOs sell music too, do you think they value it as an art or just see it solely as a product to make money from?

    Probably both. Idk why yall are acting like it has to be either or.

    Pretty much every artist cares about making money off their craft. Even back in Mozart times the goal was to become the nicest composer so you could have the church, the monarchy, etc commission music from you

  • Oct 5, 2025
    Gosh

    Look at you so close to understanding why nobody gives a f*** about who has the most streams and why it doesn’t dictate who’s better than who

    It’s hilarious seeing grown men obsessed over Taylor swift numbers.

    I understand the intrigue but spending hours on this s*** is wild.

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Probably both. Idk why yall are acting like it has to be either or.

    Pretty much every artist cares about making money off their craft. Even back in Mozart times the goal was to become the nicest composer so you could have the church, the monarchy, etc commission music from you

    I never said that artists shouldn’t care about profiting off their art.

    But it comes to a point where it seems like all they care about is the financial gain and not anything about the actual art itself.

    You saw this with the MCU in the early 2020s after Endgame.

    They were releasing movie after movie after show after show after movie. Why? Because it was Disney’s biggest cash cow at the time.

    Sure, you can say they did that for the love of storytelling, but when you look at how underbaked and uninspired everything was you could tell that they were throwing s*** at the wall to earn as much money as possible.

    This phenomenon exists in pretty much any medium: music, films, television, video games, books, etc.

    Taylor Swift has been doing the same s*** since 2022

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    TheFader

    I never said that artists shouldn’t care about profiting off their art.

    But it comes to a point where it seems like all they care about is the financial gain and not anything about the actual art itself.

    You saw this with the MCU in the early 2020s after Endgame.

    They were releasing movie after movie after show after show after movie. Why? Because it was Disney’s biggest cash cow at the time.

    Sure, you can say they did that for the love of storytelling, but when you look at how underbaked and uninspired everything was you could tell that they were throwing s*** at the wall to earn as much money as possible.

    This phenomenon exists in pretty much any medium: music, films, television, video games, books, etc.

    Taylor Swift has been doing the same s*** since 2022

    If her fans will buy it why is she wrong to sell it and why does that make her care about the art any less. She's Mr Beast

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    If her fans will buy it why is she wrong to sell it and why does that make her care about the art any less. She's Mr Beast

    Doing tricks on it is crazy. This actually might be Travis Kelce account.

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Big Dog

    Are you serious or trolling? Taylor swift sells a lot of bundle/vinyl bullcrap bc her audience is girls ranging from 4 years old to 35. They buy music like no tomorrow and taylor is their lord and savior. Travis hit his peak with astroworld.

    i think i explained my rationale pretty well. it was beyond anyone's wildest expectations that a rerelease of a decade old mixtape would do 331k pure, and there's no reason to assume he isn't gonna do a lot more with an album of new material.

    that said, i'm exaggerating a bit saying he could hit 1m+, that's quite unlikely. but he will put out enough merch bundles and variants to comfortably hit his highest first week total, that's what i feel will happen lol.

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Big Dog

    Doing tricks on it is crazy. This actually might be Travis Kelce account.

    Thats funny because you had a phase tryna be black like Kelce. We all saw that bullshit rap video you made.

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    Free YoungBoy

    Thats funny because you had a phase tryna be black like Kelce. We all saw that bullshit rap video you made.

    This is so weird LMFAO you sick as hell

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Big Dog

    Doing tricks on it is crazy. This actually might be Travis Kelce account.

    na he doesn't care about taylor swift. he's being obtuse because he wants to make a point that sales mean nothing so everyone should stop talking about it

  • Oct 5, 2025
    serenade

    i think i explained my rationale pretty well. it was beyond anyone's wildest expectations that a rerelease of a decade old mixtape would do 331k pure, and there's no reason to assume he isn't gonna do a lot more with an album of new material.

    that said, i'm exaggerating a bit saying he could hit 1m+, that's quite unlikely. but he will put out enough merch bundles and variants to comfortably hit his highest first week total, that's what i feel will happen lol.

    Honestly only way it happens is if he does a merch bundle with Nike and his shoes.

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    Big Dog

    This is so weird LMFAO you sick as hell

    You calling me Kelce but you're actually a wigga tryna be black like him

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    Blue Man

    na he doesn't care about taylor swift. he's being obtuse because he wants to make a point that sales mean nothing so everyone should stop talking about it

    No my point is why is it a big deal to yall that she's doing this?

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    Free YoungBoy

    No my point is why is it a big deal to yall that she's doing this?

    you're in the sales thread. stop trying to convince everyone you don't care

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 5, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    No my point is why is it a big deal to yall that she's doing this?

    It’s a big deal because by their logic they now have to crown her as the greatest artist of all time

  • Oct 5, 2025
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    Blue Man

    you're in the sales thread. stop trying to convince everyone you don't care

    I'm curious as to why it's such a big deal to you guys that she's selling all these bonus albums. We all know Taylor Swift is fake af, shes basically a female Mr Beast. Why are yall so hurt that shes trying to break a record and make the most amount of money?

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 5, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    You calling me Kelce but you're actually a wigga tryna be black like him

    He set himself up to fail trying to make it in music while vicariously living through someone online

    I understand being 13 years old and still trying to find yourself

    But a grown ass man thinking he inherits drakes success and his beefs is a huge reason he was never going to be able to grind how he needed for his music to work

  • Oct 5, 2025

    Damn taylor even using AI in her promo video wtf. She def only cares about the numbers and money.

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    Gosh

    He set himself up to fail trying to make it in music while vicariously living through someone online

    I understand being 13 years old and still trying to find yourself

    But a grown ass man thinking he inherits drakes success and his beefs is a huge reason he was never going to be able to grind how he needed for his music to work

    Yall talking on a minor. I was 16 making music lmaooo

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