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  • Feb 20, 2025
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    Valentine
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1892572440502350144

    Nope

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    quadra

    Nope

    Yes

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    Feb 20, 2025
    thegreatdivine

    To the K-Bot statisticians:
    Billie Eilish (78 songs, 44.9B), has more Spotify streams than Kendrick Lamar (230 songs, 43.4B) Care to elaborate?

    The elaboration:

    Billie Eilish is overall more popular than Kendrick Lamar in the streaming era, not at all unexpected for a white woman that makes pop songs.

    He’s currently doubling her daily streams though

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    mov

    Yes

    Nope

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    K-Bots really think more songs automatically = more streams

    That's not true for anything in the streaming era. It all boils down to how many people are actually consuming the music you've put up. At the rate she's going, Billie Eilish might cross 100B streams on Spotify before she ever has up to 100 songs on the platform. That's because her fans stream the hell out of her music.

    Yeah, it's a really weak and nonsensical argument that falls apart as soon as you apply any bit of logical thought to it.

    Let's say tomorrow Billie Eilish doubles her streaming catalog by releasing another 80 songs. Her fans don't magically start listening to twice as much Billie Eilish forevermore - the number of fans and the amount of time they spend listening actually now gets diluted across a larger number of songs, which will hurt the performance of individual projects and likely not affect her total numbers at all.

    It's the same way with albums; it's silly to project 2x songs = 2x streams. The vast majority of people don't base their consumption habits on # of full playthroughs of an album, they spend X amount of time listening to Y artist.

  • Feb 20, 2025
    thegreatdivine

    To the K-Bot statisticians:
    Billie Eilish (78 songs, 44.9B), has more Spotify streams than Kendrick Lamar (230 songs, 43.4B) Care to elaborate?

    For dumb f***s like you: half of the projects Kendrick released were before streaming was really big. Hope this helps!

  • Feb 20, 2025
    quadra

    Nope

    Yes

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    They're comparing Kendrick Lamar with Billie Eilish now

  • Feb 20, 2025
    mov

    Not really, she's one of the biggest pop stars right now

    Of course but she doesn’t have the catalogue to do it by herself yet. She has at most like 4 songs that could match the occasion IMO

    She’s just too young and new rn

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    DatPMF

    Okey, lets look at Drakes top 230 songs out of 500 and compare it to Kendricks 230 songs. Who do you think has a higher average stream count per song?

    Red button instrumental being one of the 500 💀😭

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    Travis Scott such a fraud for not crediting Drake. Now we gotta deal with another cope stat

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    mov

    They're comparing Kendrick Lamar with Billie Eilish now

    Not sure if you're referring to my post, but FWIW I'm not trying to compare them, just using a general example for a general concept that can be applied to anyone -- Billie, Kendrick, Drake, whoever

  • Feb 20, 2025
    ICEMAN40

    Travis Scott such a fraud for not crediting Drake. Now we gotta deal with another cope stat

    That lack of Sicko Mode credit is honestly f***ed lol

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    ICEMAN40

    Travis Scott such a fraud for not crediting Drake. Now we gotta deal with another cope stat

    Its also funny they are including Luther which quite literally has not even got to #1 yet, they pre-ordering stat tweets

  • Feb 20, 2025
    K DOG 99

    Its also funny they are including Luther which quite literally has not even got to #1 yet, they pre-ordering stat tweets

  • Feb 20, 2025
    YA ICEMAN ACE

    Not sure if you're referring to my post, but FWIW I'm not trying to compare them, just using a general example for a general concept that can be applied to anyone -- Billie, Kendrick, Drake, whoever

    No, I mean thebitterdivine

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    Feb 20, 2025
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    YA ICEMAN ACE

    Yeah, it's a really weak and nonsensical argument that falls apart as soon as you apply any bit of logical thought to it.

    Let's say tomorrow Billie Eilish doubles her streaming catalog by releasing another 80 songs. Her fans don't magically start listening to twice as much Billie Eilish forevermore - the number of fans and the amount of time they spend listening actually now gets diluted across a larger number of songs, which will hurt the performance of individual projects and likely not affect her total numbers at all.

    It's the same way with albums; it's silly to project 2x songs = 2x streams. The vast majority of people don't base their consumption habits on # of full playthroughs of an album, they spend X amount of time listening to Y artist.

    This is just purely false. Outside of the greater variety for regular human appeal (some people may like only one or two Billie eilish songs and having more songs appeals to a wider number of people), More songs = more playlisting, more algorithmic shuffling, and more exposure.

  • Feb 20, 2025
    e t

    This is just purely false. Outside of the greater variety for regular human appeal (some people may like only one or two Billie eilish songs and having more songs appeals to a wider number of people), More songs = more playlisting, more algorithmic shuffling, and more exposure.

    Keep going

  • Feb 20, 2025
    Valentine
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1892572440502350144

    Could have had 6 if he didn’t block himself (Euphoria, TV Off)

  • Feb 20, 2025
    K DOG 99

    Its also funny they are including Luther which quite literally has not even got to #1 yet, they pre-ordering stat tweets

    pre ordering stat tweets is hilarious

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    e t

    This is just purely false. Outside of the greater variety for regular human appeal (some people may like only one or two Billie eilish songs and having more songs appeals to a wider number of people), More songs = more playlisting, more algorithmic shuffling, and more exposure.

    Now you're just getting into different topics like the diversity of music that an artist makes. An artist can have a diverse catalog with a bunch of different sounds with either 80 or 160 or 400 songs. You're right that more diverse artists will have more mass appeal, obviously. But that's a different argument. You can't guarantee that the next 80 songs Billie (in this example) releases will have sonic or content diversity from the first 80, and you can't just randomly extrapolate to TWICE the streams just because there are twice as many songs. I'm sure there is a correlated relationship there, but I doubt very much that it's 1:1 linear the way it's always claimed to be

  • Feb 20, 2025
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    This thread over the years is literally just Drake stans beefing with other fambases

    Weekend, Kendrick, Bad Bunny etc

  • Feb 20, 2025
    YA ICEMAN ACE

    Yeah, it's a really weak and nonsensical argument that falls apart as soon as you apply any bit of logical thought to it.

    Let's say tomorrow Billie Eilish doubles her streaming catalog by releasing another 80 songs. Her fans don't magically start listening to twice as much Billie Eilish forevermore - the number of fans and the amount of time they spend listening actually now gets diluted across a larger number of songs, which will hurt the performance of individual projects and likely not affect her total numbers at all.

    It's the same way with albums; it's silly to project 2x songs = 2x streams. The vast majority of people don't base their consumption habits on # of full playthroughs of an album, they spend X amount of time listening to Y artist.

  • Feb 20, 2025
    Mafia Boss

    Red button instrumental being one of the 500 💀😭

    He released instrumentals for all 6 SH3 songs so those are a part of the 500

  • e t 🇺🇸
    Feb 20, 2025
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    YA ICEMAN ACE

    Now you're just getting into different topics like the diversity of music that an artist makes. An artist can have a diverse catalog with a bunch of different sounds with either 80 or 160 or 400 songs. You're right that more diverse artists will have more mass appeal, obviously. But that's a different argument. You can't guarantee that the next 80 songs Billie (in this example) releases will have sonic or content diversity from the first 80, and you can't just randomly extrapolate to TWICE the streams just because there are twice as many songs. I'm sure there is a correlated relationship there, but I doubt very much that it's 1:1 linear the way it's always claimed to be

    I never said it would be twice as many streams. I can’t guess at the exact relationship, as there are too many factors there. Even 10% more streams though is a significant number, when talking about billions of streams.

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