You’re changing the goalposts as you go man. Sunflower was the first ever Double Diamond song, and HUMBLE. was the first rap song to be Double Diamond eligible
Not really, you're valuing longevity, i'm valuing peak performance
Says the guy who said Bad Bunny was huge before MIA, the guy who never charted a song on Hot 100.
Lol. Just admit you became a Bad Bunny stan like everyone else in 2022 bro, it's okay.
I’m genuinely trying to give you and others context here with a perfect example of how charts don’t represent everything.
I grew up in California like many others where 70% of many schools including mine are Latinos. I am literally like many others pretty much fluent in Spanish. Growing up Daddy Yankee, Don Omar, Wisin y Yandel and Vicente Fernandez has always been played around as much as PAC, Mac Dre, 40 etc
Before streaming, Spanish music was always underrepresented due to impact because radio determined most of the charts and they were inherently racist. It was always heavily played in communities. With streaming that has changed. Even right now it’s underrepresented . Look at the touring of not just reggaeton but banda artists who have no charting songs and are doing 200M+ tours in US selling out stadiums.
Some of y’all can be dismissive but I know some will actually appreciate the context. Thats why charts are not everything. There are 50M+ people speaking Spanish here and places like California they are literally the biggest ethnicity.
Not really, you're valuing longevity, i'm valuing peak performance
Doesn’t longevity matter more? That means it remains in people’s minds. That’s typically how the biggest songs of all time that people look back on, and that continue to be played years later, are determined.
Otherwise, it’s essentially a novelty song that might get busted out in 10-15 years within a movie featuring a flashback scene where said given song is being played at a house party so that some people in the theater watching can go “Oh yeah, I remember that song!”.
Doesn’t longevity matter more? That means it remains in people’s minds. That’s typically how the biggest songs of all time that people look back on, and that continue to be played years later, are determined.
Otherwise, it’s essentially a novelty song that might get busted out in 10-15 years within a movie featuring a flashback scene where said given song is being played at a house party so that some people in the theater watching can go “Oh yeah, I remember that song!”.
4x4 is bigger than Goosebumps by that logic
Idk if NLU is the biggest rap song of all time. Probably not even top 10.
However it is bigger than every Drake song since at least 2018
Doesn’t longevity matter more? That means it remains in people’s minds. That’s typically how the biggest songs of all time that people look back on, and that continue to be played years later, are determined.
Otherwise, it’s essentially a novelty song that might get busted out in 10-15 years within a movie featuring a flashback scene where said given song is being played at a house party so that some people in the theater watching can go “Oh yeah, I remember that song!”.
Songs can remain in peoples minds without them wanting to listen to it tho
WAP is an example of this, that was absolutely everywhere for a few months, arguably even the highest peak for a female rap song in the last 10 years. Arguably even a top 10 rap song peak in the last 10 years. But just 2 years later it wasnt being listened to much anymore, cause people got tired of it
then some songs (especially pop) have way lower peaks, but are around for years, because people don't really get sick of them. Cruel Summer by Taylor Swift is an example of that
After seeing those projections, I wonder if Kendrick wouldve did 500k+ fw if he had the physicals ready(and a rollout longer than 30 mins)
319k + 130k + 10k from not like us that week = 460k
Nope. All you have to do is see how all their collabs have performed on the charts to know how this album will perform lol. Even if the debut week numbers are decent, it will perform well overtime, if only because most Drake fans (and casual Drake listeners) are waiting for the rap album. No one asked him for an R&B album with PARTYNEXTDOOR, that's something he's doing because he's always wanted to do it. Same way no one asked him for Honestly, Nevermind but he did it because he's always wanted to.
I strongly believe that good word of mouth can push this project further and give it legs.
I strongly believe that good word of mouth can push this project further and give it legs.
That's left to be seen. All I can give is you is a history of how Drake's R&B songs — specifically those with PARTYNEXTDOOR, have performed and they've all performed poorly despite most of them being fan favorites.
All lofty first-week expectations should be reserved for Drake's solo album imo.
319k + 130k + 10k from not like us that week = 460k
if he was dropping with announcement and actually at midnight, he does more for sure.
He dropped it friday morning.
HOW IS THIS NIGGA DOING MAJOR FW NUMBERS IN HIS 3RD OR 4TH MONTH LMAOOO THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST BOOSTS EVER
Guess the superbowl didnt disappoint the majority outside of the alt right tweeters - funny how that works out
Its about 50k boost in half a tracking week. The rest was cause physicals shipped.
I’m genuinely trying to give you and others context here with a perfect example of how charts don’t represent everything.
I grew up in California like many others where 70% of many schools including mine are Latinos. I am literally like many others pretty much fluent in Spanish. Growing up Daddy Yankee, Don Omar, Wisin y Yandel and Vicente Fernandez has always been played around as much as PAC, Mac Dre, 40 etc
Before streaming, Spanish music was always underrepresented due to impact because radio determined most of the charts and they were inherently racist. It was always heavily played in communities. With streaming that has changed. Even right now it’s underrepresented . Look at the touring of not just reggaeton but banda artists who have no charting songs and are doing 200M+ tours in US selling out stadiums.
Some of y’all can be dismissive but I know some will actually appreciate the context. Thats why charts are not everything. There are 50M+ people speaking Spanish here and places like California they are literally the biggest ethnicity.
I don't doubt that he was popping in certain communities like that, but that's the whole point of Billboard, to show what's actually popping across the whole country with the majority of people. It did a garbage job of this like you said until streaming became a thing, but now it does a pretty good job.
He went from being a local artist, to having 10s of millions of white suburban girls across the country shaking their ass to him. That's what you need to be actually big, you're never gonna get that by just having the minority communities locked down
There's a reason Bad Bunny's numbers were like 5-10x higher in 2020 than 2018 for example
That's left to be seen. All I can give is you is a history of how Drake's R&B songs — specifically those with PARTYNEXTDOOR, have performed and they've all performed poorly despite most of them being fan favorites.
All lofty first-week expectations should be reserved for Drake's solo album imo.
Yeah, I guess
So Old Town Road is the biggest song of the streaming era?
Either that or Sunflower in the US. If you look at 2017 to now. But OTR was more so big in the moment its not a song you listen to years later.
How?! That is shocking lmfao
Physicals are only now getting shipped, hence the boost.
Kdot doing even more streams