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  • Feb 1, 2025
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    mov

    Bro this had like 3 weeks of promo with Apple, 6 weeks of silence and the last 4 weeks was just him tweeting once a day

    I would even argue that Dawn FM had more promo especially right before it dropped lol

    How can y’all say that though? The album has received very extensive promo since the São Paulo show back on September 7th

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    John Mauve

    Yes but also many Drake fans are ed so this doesn't mean much

    ironic

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    This is why bragging using Spotify Monthly Listeners has always been stupid. It is a very useless "stat" because it doesn't translate to how many streams new music will actually amass.

    Nobody said monthly listeners translated to high first week sales lmao

    I don’t get why rap fans are so obsessed with first week sales.

    Bruno’s next album probably won’t clear 300K first week but give it 5-6 years and it’ll absolutely be one of the highest selling albums of that decade.

    We keep telling y’all Pop doesn’t operate in first week numbers save for the exceptions (the Taylor’s and the Adele’s of the world)

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    How can y’all say that though? The album has received very extensive promo since the São Paulo show back on September 7th

    because nothing happened after October pretty much and people moved on? lol

    This rollout was more cursed than the rollout for Dawn FM

  • Feb 1, 2025
    Hurry Up Lefkol

    That’s true but the fact that some of Abel’s old music ( albums ) go viral after 5/6 years and end up being his best selling work means his music ages well which is kinda the biggest achievement you can have as a artist.

    This. Weeknd’s music always has insane legs.

    Starboy didn’t have the highest first week sales or streams back in 2016, but 10 years later and it’s the highest streamed album released in that year on Spotify, and it’s the 3rd highest ever

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    mov

    because nothing happened after October pretty much and people moved on? lol

    This rollout was more cursed than the rollout for Dawn FM

    This is not true either lmao

    Other than an album trailer, what else were you expecting him to do to promote this album?

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    This is not true either lmao

    Other than an album trailer, what else were you expecting him to do to promote this album?

    I’m not here to argue with you. The rollout was horrible and Abel was very, very quiet after he dropped São Paulo and thats ok because I don’t care anyway. I’m not saying this to judge him so stop being so defensive.

    He doesn’t even really promote HUT right now too. It will have his reasons so it’s not fair to talk about this, maybe he’s not in a good place mentally right now (would make sense since HUT is kinda sad)

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    mov

    I’m not here to argue with you. The rollout was horrible and Abel was very, very quiet after he dropped São Paulo and thats ok because I don’t care anyway. I’m not saying this to judge him so stop being so defensive.

    He doesn’t even really promote HUT right now too. It will have his reasons so it’s not fair to talk about this, maybe he’s not in a good place mentally right now (would make sense since HUT is kinda sad)

    It’s one thing to say y’all didn’t like the rollout

    But y’all are saying that there was no promotion at all

    That’s just not true lmao

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    It’s one thing to say y’all didn’t like the rollout

    But y’all are saying that there was no promotion at all

    That’s just not true lmao

    I never said that there was no rollout dumbo but he obviously did way less after September and October lool

    The album thread was dying in December because barely anything happened

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    mov

    I never said that there was no rollout dumbo but he obviously did way less after September and October lool

    The album thread was dying in December because barely anything happened

    You said there was silence after October… that’s not true

    I’m not tryna argue either but that excuse just feels like cope. We don’t have to lie about it just because the numbers are low right now, this was his most heavily promoted album since After Hours.

    We can have a conversation about why that promo didn’t reach the people outside of the immediate fanbase, but there was definitely promotion basically the entire way through

  • Feb 1, 2025
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Who doesn't wanna get topped by Bruno

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    Yeah I’ve never agreed with that.

    For some reason the extensive promo just didn’t connect with people or reach them effectively. I don’t know why it didn’t reach them, but this album definitely had a massive promo run

    Fader keeping it objective

  • John Mauve 🍺
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    Plight2

    ironic

    Plight2

    The communist with the most capitalist arse music taste

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    Nobody said monthly listeners translated to high first week sales lmao

    I don’t get why rap fans are so obsessed with first week sales.

    Bruno’s next album probably won’t clear 300K first week but give it 5-6 years and it’ll absolutely be one of the highest selling albums of that decade.

    We keep telling y’all Pop doesn’t operate in first week numbers save for the exceptions (the Taylor’s and the Adele’s of the world)

    We keep telling y’all Pop doesn’t operate in first week numbers save for the exceptions (the Taylor’s and the Adele’s of the world)

    Is that why he dropped 5 limited vinyl, 6 boxsets, a digital deluxe all that ships within the 1st tracking week and is no longer available to order @ hurryuptomorrow.club ?

    Or how every pop artist that Taylor was predicted to outsell last year dropped multiple new versions trying to take the #1?

    Or how pop acts used tickets bundles, then merch bundles, then boxsets to boost their first week numbers?

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    For whatever reason, he’s just never been a huge first week guy

    His music always has legs though

    All good, simply Goatbel isn’t in the “album superstar” mold

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    Midzy

    We keep telling y’all Pop doesn’t operate in first week numbers save for the exceptions (the Taylor’s and the Adele’s of the world)

    Is that why he dropped 5 limited vinyl, 6 boxsets, a digital deluxe all that ships within the 1st tracking week and is no longer available to order @ hurryuptomorrow.club ?

    Or how every pop artist that Taylor was predicted to outsell last year dropped multiple new versions trying to take the #1?

    Or how pop acts used tickets bundles, then merch bundles, then boxsets to boost their first week numbers?

    Did I say that Pop artists don’t care about first week numbers?

    Or did I say that the genre of pop music doesn’t operate in first week numbers?

  • Feb 1, 2025
    BRAVE

    All good, simply Goatbel isn’t in the “album superstar” mold

    What do you mean

  • Feb 1, 2025
    Deezed

    Fader keeping it objective

    I always do but they think I have agendas for certain artists

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    Did I say that Pop artists don’t care about first week numbers?

    Or did I say that the genre of pop music doesn’t operate in first week numbers?

    What kinda dumb response is this.

    You just used Bruno as an example, so obviously you mean an artists first week numbers.

    "the genre of pop music"

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    Midzy

    What kinda dumb response is this.

    You just used Bruno as an example, so obviously you mean an artists first week numbers.

    "the genre of pop music"

    Please read more carefully.

    I never said artists do not CARE about first week numbers.

    What I said is that, in pop music, they do not matter above everything else as we see in rap music.

    Pop music always performs best in the longterm.

    Bruno Mars has never cleared 300K first week, yet all of his albums are some of the highest selling of the 2010s. That’s my point.

    Neither Short n Sweet or Hit Me Hard and Soft cleared 400K first week, and yet both finished in the Top 5 for sales in 2024. That’s my point.

    Obviously every artist wants to sell as much as possible opening week. But pop releases (save for the exceptions such as Taylor and Adele) generally perform better in the longterm rather than the short term, especially in the streaming era

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    You said there was silence after October… that’s not true

    I’m not tryna argue either but that excuse just feels like cope. We don’t have to lie about it just because the numbers are low right now, this was his most heavily promoted album since After Hours.

    We can have a conversation about why that promo didn’t reach the people outside of the immediate fanbase, but there was definitely promotion basically the entire way through

    It’s not cope when the rollout wasn’t good at all lol

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    TheFader

    Please read more carefully.

    I never said artists do not CARE about first week numbers.

    What I said is that, in pop music, they do not matter above everything else as we see in rap music.

    Pop music always performs best in the longterm.

    Bruno Mars has never cleared 300K first week, yet all of his albums are some of the highest selling of the 2010s. That’s my point.

    Neither Short n Sweet or Hit Me Hard and Soft cleared 400K first week, and yet both finished in the Top 5 for sales in 2024. That’s my point.

    Obviously every artist wants to sell as much as possible opening week. But pop releases (save for the exceptions such as Taylor and Adele) generally perform better in the longterm rather than the short term, especially in the streaming era

    Pop music always performs best in the longterm.

    How's that Katy Perry album doing?

    Or Camilla?

  • Feb 1, 2025
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    Midzy

    Pop music always performs best in the longterm.

    How's that Katy Perry album doing?

    Or Camilla?

    Why are you cherry picking

    Did I say ALL Pop albums perform better in the longterm?

    Obviously a Pop album can flop, just like any other genre’s albums.

    But since you mentioned her, Teenage Dream sold a mere 192K copies first week, and was certified Diamond last year. Hope this helps.

  • Feb 1, 2025
    TheFader

    Why are you cherry picking

    Did I say ALL Pop albums perform better in the longterm?

    Obviously a Pop album can flop, just like any other genre’s albums.

    But since you mentioned her, Teenage Dream sold a mere 192K copies first week, and was certified Diamond last year. Hope this helps.

    Your exact words

    Pop music always performs best in the longterm.

    You'd think after taking the L on DITF you'd maybe learn a little bit.

  • Feb 1, 2025

    An artist in the album superstar mold showcases an artist persona that is both an archetypal representation for a genre and essentially a “big sibling” to their audience demographic. This is done with the artist’s image and personality, visuals, cover art, and of course lyrics (I’ll refer to my post about lyrics and high first week sales) in relation to a particular album

    I just described 50 circa Get Rich or Die Tryin, Adele circa 21/25, Taylor Swift every album since her self-titled, and many more

    That’s the most important aspect of garnering huge album demand. This album s*** goes deep

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