lol dawg forming his opining around niggas who have always cared about numbers even before the album dropped

Yea reading that was revisionist as hell, idk why they do that often.

Reminder they called Ye crazy when he was leaking his contracts and telling Drake do.not.sign.

a part of Drizzle’s appeal for them is that he’s the number one guy, so when he doesn’t have that they take it as a personal attack

that’s life

it’s like European Golden State Warrior fans

They're just as obsessed about numbers. Kendrick doesn't drop often and rarely breaks or sets any records so they don't get to brag about his achievements as much but whenever there's something to brag about, that's exactly what they do. The idea that Kendrick fans don't care about numbers is simply untrue.

Not every Drake fan cares about his numbers as well and y'all have no idea generalizing that EVERY Drake fan is numbers-obsessed when most of us spend 95% of the time discussing his music lmao.

2017 when DAMN outsold More Life, Kendrick fans spent the entire year bragging about his numbers and how he finally outperformed Drake. 2018, Drake shut that s*** down and y'all went dead silent again till this year when Not Like Us dropped and gave y'all a reason to brag on numbers again. Never fails.

Y'all brag whenever Kendrick puts up notable numbers (which is fine and what a lot of fans do for their faves anyways) but somehow whenever Drake fans do it with Drake (and artist who is a perennial record-breaker), y'all turn it into something negative. Like we should be s***ting on him for always putting up numbers and outdoing his peers.

What's more disingenuous is y'all acting like if it was Kendrick being the #1 biggest rapper every year, his fans would shut up about that lmao.

Lastly, there's nothing more pathetic than y'all keeping "malice" over Drake fans rightly celebrating their fave putting up numbers and using Kendrick's success to try to s*** on those fans as a "gotcha." Only miserable people even think to do s*** like that.

Celebrate your fave for their accomplishments. There's nothing wrong with doing that.

Didn’t mean to generalize, I think the loud minority is unfortunately ruining discussions for both sides

I don't mind the numbers discussions. That's why there's a thread dedicated to it. Whoever wants to discuss numbers can do so. There's nothing weird or superficial about and it's possible to care about the music as well as how said music performs commercially.

The English language isn’t your strong suit I see

Meh, Drake fans use numbers in more ways than just “celebrating an artist”

They will completely belittle and dismiss any artist who isn’t selling crazy numbers, such as Doechii

They judge albums based on how well the numbers are. Kendrick fans don’t do that for Drake

It’s been three years and Drake stans still fail to understand why Kendrick fans bring up numbers now

Regarding the popstar discussion:

Kendrick being named the #1 Popstar of 2024 is not the same context as when someone calls Drake a popstar as an artist.

That list was just ranking the most Pop-ular musicians of 2024, hence the term Pop Star.

When people call Drake a popstar, they are referring to the way in which he approaches and creates his art, where he’s trying to appeal to several different demographics at once and create radio hit singles, something that popstars, or pop musicians do.

Kendrick, on the other hand, always approaches music completely from a hip-hop angle. An album like GNX is popular, yes, but it’s literally a super regional West Coast rap album with obscure West Coast rappers on it that the average person outside of California had never heard of before the album released.

It’s not a slight to call Drake a popstar, he has self-proclaimed that about himself to be fair. But there’s a difference in context in Billboard crowning Kendrick the #1 Popstar of a year, and people referring to Drake as a popstar to describe who he is as an artist

Understanding that words have context behind them is not moving any goalpost

the former faux-neutral Drizzle stan is spiraling

Kendrick does most of the things you said Drake does tbh.

You’ve been hating for a very very long time.

He really does not.

GKMC is a West Coast concept album.

TPAB is a jazz-influenced conscious rap album.

Mr. Morale is an album about therapy and mental health.

GNX is a super regional West Coast album.

The only album of his you can say was made for the radio was DAMN.

Whereas for Drake, you can argue every single project of his besides a small few were made for a wide demographic

"trying to appeal to several different demographics at once" ✅

"create radio hit singles"✅

That is not Kendrick’s primary goal with his albums though.

An album like Views or Certified Lover Boy is literally made to appease as many demographics as possible.

Can we say the same about 80% of Kendrick’s discography? No.

"That is not Kendrick’s primary goal with his albums though."

Why do you think Luther and Gloria were added to GNX?

Luther is 1 out of 12 songs

Gloria is literally a 4 minute, three-verse rap song written as a euphemism for his pen

If 1/12 songs defines an entire album to you idk what to tell you

He is clearly adding songs to his album that he knows will be singles. I don't get the point of pretending that Kendrick doesn't plan his albums out.

Also the whole idea that Kendrick is only working with SZA for numbers is so disingenuous. They’ve literally been collaborating since SZA was a nobody. You can even argue that SZA’s first true mainstream hit was given to her by Kendrick