CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2y

Lol I try to engage with differing perspectives, you never know when you might learn something new!

thegreatdivine

2y

Context is important. Because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible, especially when it's being done with Spotify's knowledge. If you, CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN, own a streaming farm in say, Kazakhstan, and you backdoor Spotify's servers and boost the streams of a major artist by 10-50M streams overnight, that'll get flagged. It's many acts who have faked streams and eventually, they got caught by Spotify's system and had those streams deleted and of course, those accounts will get flagged by the system.

What allegedly happened with Not Like Us is unique, in that, at least, with the case Drake is making, things were done by Spotify, at the urging of UMG, to give the song an insane boost via countless playlist placements, relentless autoplay and algorithm recommendations, even when users actively weren't trying to listen to the song, so as to give it a massive boost in streams that it wouldn't have had otherwise.

At the peak of Not Like Us' success, many people noted how the song got inserted into their usual Spotify-curated playlists that had nothing to do with hip-hop or even r&b. Many people noted how they'd be listening to their own curated playlist of songs and a song would end and Not Like Us would immediately come on. They'd skip back to a song of their choosing and it'd come on again after.

Spotify isn't going to be stupid enough to be giving out 10M streams to Not Like Us daily because that'll eventually come back to bite them in the ass, but it doesn't mean they didn't use illegal tactics to give the song an unfair advantage to boost its popularity, which is the argument Drake is making.

We can see how once that "button" stopped being pressed on the song, it's dropped from its peak of over 14M daily streams to less than 2M daily streams, all under 6 months.

Other songs, which organically grew in popularity, have had much better luck sustaining said popularity (look at a song like Die with a Smile that's still pulling 10M daily streams 3 months in, with no signs of slowing down).

We'll see what eventually happens. If Spotify/UMG didn't actually collude to force Not Like Us down people's throats for months and Drake has no case, we'll know eventually. No need to go back and forth debating this when it's moved on to the legal world now but yeah, that's my long-winded explanation on why Not Like Us is different lol.

Sekaiichi

2y

How do ya'll engage with this mf?

Slept On

2y

bro whats crazy to me is that buddy had twice as many songs and half the music industry on his album to only sell 70k more

he shoulda really took that vacation

thegreatdivine

2y

Mental illness.

thegreatdivine

2y

Context is important. Because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible, especially when it's being done with Spotify's knowledge. If you, CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN, own a streaming farm in say, Kazakhstan, and you backdoor Spotify's servers and boost the streams of a major artist by 10-50M streams overnight, that'll get flagged. It's many acts who have faked streams and eventually, they got caught by Spotify's system and had those streams deleted and of course, those accounts will get flagged by the system.

What allegedly happened with Not Like Us is unique, in that, at least, with the case Drake is making, things were done by Spotify, at the urging of UMG, to give the song an insane boost via countless playlist placements, relentless autoplay and algorithm recommendations, even when users actively weren't trying to listen to the song, so as to give it a massive boost in streams that it wouldn't have had otherwise.

At the peak of Not Like Us' success, many people noted how the song got inserted into their usual Spotify-curated playlists that had nothing to do with hip-hop or even r&b. Many people noted how they'd be listening to their own curated playlist of songs and a song would end and Not Like Us would immediately come on. They'd skip back to a song of their choosing and it'd come on again after.

Spotify isn't going to be stupid enough to be giving out 10M streams to Not Like Us daily because that'll eventually come back to bite them in the ass, but it doesn't mean they didn't use illegal tactics to give the song an unfair advantage to boost its popularity, which is the argument Drake is making.

We can see how once that "button" stopped being pressed on the song, it's dropped from its peak of over 14M daily streams to less than 2M daily streams, all under 6 months.

Other songs, which organically grew in popularity, have had much better luck sustaining said popularity (look at a song like Die with a Smile that's still pulling 10M daily streams 3 months in, with no signs of slowing down).

We'll see what eventually happens. If Spotify/UMG didn't actually collude to force Not Like Us down people's throats for months and Drake has no case, we'll know eventually. No need to go back and forth debating this when it's moved on to the legal world now but yeah, that's my long-winded explanation on why Not Like Us is different lol.

deleteduser579

2y

same way they engage w condom eyes on here

Marty Crane

2y

Praying that this is satire

Slept On

2y

bro whats crazy to me is that buddy had twice as many songs and half the music industry on his album to only sell 70k more

he shoulda really took that vacation

TheFader

2y

Nigga called in The Avengers for the feature list and padded the tracklist out to 23 songs and still only cleared 400K

Not to mention all of the solo songs on that album are complete commercial flops

TheFader

2y

Nigga called in The Avengers for the feature list and padded the tracklist out to 23 songs and still only cleared 400K

Not to mention all of the solo songs on that album are complete commercial flops

thegreatdivine

2y

Context is important. Because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible, especially when it's being done with Spotify's knowledge. If you, CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN, own a streaming farm in say, Kazakhstan, and you backdoor Spotify's servers and boost the streams of a major artist by 10-50M streams overnight, that'll get flagged. It's many acts who have faked streams and eventually, they got caught by Spotify's system and had those streams deleted and of course, those accounts will get flagged by the system.

What allegedly happened with Not Like Us is unique, in that, at least, with the case Drake is making, things were done by Spotify, at the urging of UMG, to give the song an insane boost via countless playlist placements, relentless autoplay and algorithm recommendations, even when users actively weren't trying to listen to the song, so as to give it a massive boost in streams that it wouldn't have had otherwise.

At the peak of Not Like Us' success, many people noted how the song got inserted into their usual Spotify-curated playlists that had nothing to do with hip-hop or even r&b. Many people noted how they'd be listening to their own curated playlist of songs and a song would end and Not Like Us would immediately come on. They'd skip back to a song of their choosing and it'd come on again after.

Spotify isn't going to be stupid enough to be giving out 10M streams to Not Like Us daily because that'll eventually come back to bite them in the ass, but it doesn't mean they didn't use illegal tactics to give the song an unfair advantage to boost its popularity, which is the argument Drake is making.

We can see how once that "button" stopped being pressed on the song, it's dropped from its peak of over 14M daily streams to less than 2M daily streams, all under 6 months.

Other songs, which organically grew in popularity, have had much better luck sustaining said popularity (look at a song like Die with a Smile that's still pulling 10M daily streams 3 months in, with no signs of slowing down).

We'll see what eventually happens. If Spotify/UMG didn't actually collude to force Not Like Us down people's throats for months and Drake has no case, we'll know eventually. No need to go back and forth debating this when it's moved on to the legal world now but yeah, that's my long-winded explanation on why Not Like Us is different lol.

Bow_And_Arrow

2y

I'd recommend a therapist but I think you're too far gone

deleteduser579

2y

“This one didn’t come with a bundle”

oh yeah except i grabbed Bad Bunny, Yeat, Sexy Redd, J Cole (and tried to grab Kendrick mind you), and SZA

YA ICEMAN ACE

2y

That’s not a d*** riding post at all she’s literally just explaining the situation

deleteduser579

2y

i commend that

only so much brain power to spare nowadays over here so best wishes

ICEMAN40

2y

This really might be the beef thread