Poopfeast420

2y

She’s had me blocked since 2020

SWAN

2y

Why do people deny that having more tracks on an album generally results in higher first-week sales, at least up to a certain point?

An album length of 20 to 23 tracks seems to be the ideal for maximizing streams, adding more than this often leads to diminishing returns

The success of Sour and GNX does not invalidate this clear trend

Poopfeast420

2y

Highest first week streams for a “short album” ever, btw.

Lead financial a***yst for Billboard explaining why longer albums have a sales advantage:

https://www.billboard.com/pro/longer-albums-in-the-streaming-age/ and with statistics:

“The average number of tracks on studio albums in the top 10 of year-end Billboard 200 albums chart increased from 13.2 in 2014 to 19.1 in 2022. With about six more tracks came an additional 18 minutes of music. When Fleetwood Mac's Rumours topped the year-end chart in 1977, the average top 10 album had 10.3 tracks and ran just 45.1 minutes.”

If that’s not enough for you, here’s one from a global music industry reporter for Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/08/17/how-longer-albums-and-streaming-giants-are-manipulating-the-charts/

« If one listener sticks around for all 22 songs on Drake’s latest album, they have added more plays to the total than if the record (or playlist project or mixtape) a was only 10 songs long. It only takes just over 68 people to listen to Drake’s new release to count as one “sale,” whereas a 10-song collection would require 150 people to stick with it all the way through.»

Tldr: Kendrick won

Poopfeast420

2y

Highest first week streams for a “short album” ever, btw.

Lead financial a***yst for Billboard explaining why longer albums have a sales advantage:

https://www.billboard.com/pro/longer-albums-in-the-streaming-age/ and with statistics:

“The average number of tracks on studio albums in the top 10 of year-end Billboard 200 albums chart increased from 13.2 in 2014 to 19.1 in 2022. With about six more tracks came an additional 18 minutes of music. When Fleetwood Mac's Rumours topped the year-end chart in 1977, the average top 10 album had 10.3 tracks and ran just 45.1 minutes.”

If that’s not enough for you, here’s one from a global music industry reporter for Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/08/17/how-longer-albums-and-streaming-giants-are-manipulating-the-charts/

« If one listener sticks around for all 22 songs on Drake’s latest album, they have added more plays to the total than if the record (or playlist project or mixtape) a was only 10 songs long. It only takes just over 68 people to listen to Drake’s new release to count as one “sale,” whereas a 10-song collection would require 150 people to stick with it all the way through.»

Tldr: Kendrick won

John Mauve

2y

The Boy Duddas

SWAN

2y

Why do people deny that having more tracks on an album generally results in higher first-week sales, at least up to a certain point?

An album length of 20 to 23 tracks seems to be the ideal for maximizing streams, adding more than this often leads to diminishing returns

The success of Sour and GNX does not invalidate this clear trend

Freight

2y

If GNX was a 24 track album do you think you would’ve spent twice as much time listening to new Kendrick music last week?

TheFader

2y

Not exactly twice down to the digit, but the streams definitely would’ve been higher. Niggas in the industry literally explained how it works and you’re still in denial about it

Freight

2y

If GNX was a 24 track album do you think you would’ve spent twice as much time listening to new Kendrick music last week?

mov

2y

GNX definitely would've sold over 400k with like 21 tracks lol thats not even a discussion worth

Statistics show clearly that - when you're popular - you make more sales when you're dropping projects with many tracks

Freight

2y

Statistics don’t show that

SWAN

2y

I get what you’re trying to say, but your argument misses a broader trend

Longer albums often result in more overall streams, not just because of individual listening habits but due to how streaming platforms work. More tracks mean more chances for songs to get added to playlists, recommended in algorithms, or replayed individually. It’s less about any one person doubling their listening time and more about aggregate streams increasing across all listeners

For example, if ‘GNX’ were 24 tracks, some songs might appeal to different subsets of listeners, expanding its reach and replay value. And even if you personally wouldn’t listen to the album twice as much, others might return to their favorite tracks more often, boosting the total

SWAN

2y

I get what you’re trying to say, but your argument misses a broader trend

Longer albums often result in more overall streams, not just because of individual listening habits but due to how streaming platforms work. More tracks mean more chances for songs to get added to playlists, recommended in algorithms, or replayed individually. It’s less about any one person doubling their listening time and more about aggregate streams increasing across all listeners

For example, if ‘GNX’ were 24 tracks, some songs might appeal to different subsets of listeners, expanding its reach and replay value. And even if you personally wouldn’t listen to the album twice as much, others might return to their favorite tracks more often, boosting the total

Freight

2y

Major playlists don’t add more than 3-4 songs from a single album to the same playlist. And unless he decided to include a country song on the album, just adding more tacks isn’t going to get him added to more playlists than he currently is. What types of songs do you think GNX is missing to appeal to people that aren’t already listening to the album?

Freight

2y

If GNX was a 24 track album do you think you would’ve spent twice as much time listening to new Kendrick music last week?

thegreatdivine

2y

Latest Spotify US charts posted. Only 3 Kendrick songs in the top 10. Christmas takeover officially begins.
https://charts.spotify.com/charts/view/regional-us-daily/latest

Freight

2y

If GNX was a 24 track album do you think you would’ve spent twice as much time listening to new Kendrick music last week?

Freight

2y

Major playlists don’t add more than 3-4 songs from a single album to the same playlist. And unless he decided to include a country song on the album, just adding more tacks isn’t going to get him added to more playlists than he currently is. What types of songs do you think GNX is missing to appeal to people that aren’t already listening to the album?

SWAN

2y

You’re correct that major playlists typically feature only a few songs from the same album, but playlists are just one piece of the puzzle

Songs also get pushed through algorithmic features like ‘Discover Weekly and even autoplay as well

What it basically comes down to is… Having more tracks increases the chances for individual songs to perform well on their own, whether through playlists, algorithmic features or through fans gravitating toward and replaying their personal favorites

Even if most listeners focus on a handful of tracks, a longer album provides more opportunities for standout songs to emerge, driving up total streams

As for appealing to people who aren’t already listening, it’s not necessarily about adding a country song or drastically changing genres. Even within Kendrick’s existing style, more tracks could explore different moods, topics, or sounds that resonate with different subsets of listeners. For example, some people might gravitate toward introspective tracks, others to hype ones. A longer album could cater to more niches within the audience Kendrick already has—and possibly even bring in new ones

Freight

2y

If GNX was a 24 track album do you think you would’ve spent twice as much time listening to new Kendrick music last week?

mangotflu

2y

niche west coast mix tape LMAO

with 2 SZA fts, a top 5 artist of this decade

quadra

2y

UMG streams stopped after the tracking week?