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    TheFader

    Not sure why you’re comparing Damn’s streaming numbers with Off-Season’s when streaming had grown tremendously from 2017 to 2021

    That's funny because Mr Morale did the exact same number of streams that DAMN did lol

    Utopia (2023) did LESS streams than Astroworld (2018) also, even with 2 extra tracks

    streaming defo hasn't grown in the US, it has globally because spotify keep doing s*** like $5 year deals in Indonesia and s*** like that, which is making global numbers stupid

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  • Oct 30, 2024

    Godly

  • Oct 30, 2024
    mov
    https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1851612671952470258

    35m second day US

    Dawn FM second day 14.9m
    :ariscared:

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    mangotflu

    That's funny because Mr Morale did the exact same number of streams that DAMN did lol

    Utopia (2023) did LESS streams than Astroworld (2018) also, even with 2 extra tracks

    streaming defo hasn't grown in the US, it has globally because spotify keep doing s*** like $5 year deals in Indonesia and s*** like that, which is making global numbers stupid

    This is not true. Streaming has grown every single year in the US.

    On-demand paid streaming subscriptions reached a record high in the US in 2023:

    m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=340402&title=MUSIC-REVENUE-TOPPED-$17B-IN-2023:-RIAA

    riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2023-Year-End-Revenue-Statistics.pdf

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    This is not true. Streaming has grown every single year in the US.

    On-demand paid streaming subscriptions reached a record high in the US in 2023:

    https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=340402&title=MUSIC-REVENUE-TOPPED-$17B-IN-2023:-RIAA

    https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2023-Year-End-Revenue-Statistics.pdf

    That's paid subscriptions, I bet a lot of those were simply just listening via YouTube/spotify free in 2018 etc

    How can streaming be growing if Travis's first week stream numbers are down, Kendrick's are the same, Drake's are down, Weeknd's are down..

    Astroworld outstreaming Utopia first week is actually insane

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    mangotflu

    That's paid subscriptions, I bet a lot of those were simply just listening via YouTube/spotify free in 2018 etc

    How can streaming be growing if Travis's first week stream numbers are down, Kendrick's are the same, Drake's are down, Weeknd's are down..

    Astroworld outstreaming Utopia first week is actually insane

    Wrong again, total streams in the US have also increased year after year:

    musicbusinessworldwide.com/on-demand-song-streams-grew-12-2-in-the-us-last-year-and-25-6-globally1

    All of the artists you named are well past their commercial primes.

    To put it to a basketball a***ogy, teams are scoring more than ever nowadays, but that doesn’t mean the best players from the 2010s are averaging 30+ PPG

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    mov
    https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1851612671952470258

    He’s insane rn

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    TheFader

    Wrong again, total streams in the US have also increased year after year:

    https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/on-demand-song-streams-grew-12-2-in-the-us-last-year-and-25-6-globally1/

    All of the artists you named are well past their commercial primes.

    To put it to a basketball a***ogy, teams are scoring more than ever nowadays, but that doesn’t mean the best players from the 2010s are averaging 30+ PPG

    That's on demand streaming, which is basically what i'm saying lol, in 2016-2018 ish things like Pandora were still absolutely huge, they're dead now

    And again, answer my question, if streaming is growing, why aren't first week stream numbers increasing?

    Starboy did more streams first week than Dawn FM lol

  • Oct 30, 2024

    GOAT

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    thegreatdivine

    BigXThaPlug is smashing

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    mangotflu

    That's on demand streaming, which is basically what i'm saying lol, in 2016-2018 ish things like Pandora were still absolutely huge, they're dead now

    And again, answer my question, if streaming is growing, why aren't first week stream numbers increasing?

    Starboy did more streams first week than Dawn FM lol

    On-demand streaming is things like Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, aka all of the things people are mentioning when they talk about streaming. Why are you bringing up Pandora?

    Streaming growing across the board doesn’t mean that the biggest artists 6-7 years ago are gonna be surpassing their commercial primes.

    Weeknd is past his commercial prime.

    Drake is past his commercial prime.

    Kendrick & Cole are past their commercial primes.

    It’s like expecting Kanye to sell 500K first week in 2018, completely asinine.

    Streaming is up across the board, the streams are just way more spread out and also most people are mostly streaming older catalogs

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    TheFader

    On-demand streaming is things like Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, aka all of the things people are mentioning when they talk about streaming. Why are you bringing up Pandora?

    Streaming growing across the board doesn’t mean that the biggest artists 6-7 years ago are gonna be surpassing their commercial primes.

    Weeknd is past his commercial prime.

    Drake is past his commercial prime.

    Kendrick & Cole are past their commercial primes.

    It’s like expecting Kanye to sell 500K first week in 2018, completely asinine.

    Streaming is up across the board, the streams are just way more spread out and also most people are mostly streaming older catalogs

    HUH? You've said countless times on here that THe Weeknd has grown a lot since AH. Now you're saying he's past his prime? HUH

    So are you also saying Travis is past his commercial prime then?

    It's bullshit to me cause even the newer artists aren't touching any of those 2018~ numbers. Streaming numbers have only grown for 10+ year old music, anything else and s***s tragic.

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    mangotflu

    That's paid subscriptions, I bet a lot of those were simply just listening via YouTube/spotify free in 2018 etc

    How can streaming be growing if Travis's first week stream numbers are down, Kendrick's are the same, Drake's are down, Weeknd's are down..

    Astroworld outstreaming Utopia first week is actually insane

    All those artists dropped albums that were (significantly) worse than their previous album tbh, that might partially explain why their streams are down

  • Oct 31, 2024
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    Third time's the charm.

  • Oct 31, 2024
    mov
    https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1851612671952470258

    They were saying the streams were gonna tank 2nd day itt

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    285k now.

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    TheFader

    DAMN. did 603K. Cole has never come anywhere near that.

    Cole has never been on Drake or Kendrick level in any way but perception. Surely not commercially. It's not worth going back and forth about. It hasn't been close.

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    Allen Iverson

    Cole has never been on Drake or Kendrick level in any way but perception. Surely not commercially. It's not worth going back and forth about. It hasn't been close.

    lol just yapping. KOD only streamed like 20M less than Damn. First album in history to debut 3 songs in the top 10. First album since the Beatles to debut 6 songs in top 20

    Then the off-season had 5 top singles, only Drake, Wayne, Juice and Uzi the other rappers to have ever done that. I just don’t understand why ya’ll take one stat then completely discredit bro and always try to remove him from a conversation and position he’s earned. He’s consistently been at there level. Tell me how many projects Kendrick has >350k first week then tell me how many Cole has lol

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    Ghetto Lenny

    285k now.

    Where tf is yeat? lmao

  • Oct 31, 2024
    Ghetto Lenny

    285k now.

    You're on another level when "limited edition vinyl" means 100K copies lol I really couldn't believe those sold out so quickly.

  • Oct 31, 2024
    Ghetto Lenny

    285k now.

    300k manifest

  • Oct 31, 2024
    Valentine

    lol just yapping. KOD only streamed like 20M less than Damn. First album in history to debut 3 songs in the top 10. First album since the Beatles to debut 6 songs in top 20

    Then the off-season had 5 top singles, only Drake, Wayne, Juice and Uzi the other rappers to have ever done that. I just don’t understand why ya’ll take one stat then completely discredit bro and always try to remove him from a conversation and position he’s earned. He’s consistently been at there level. Tell me how many projects Kendrick has >350k first week then tell me how many Cole has lol

    ktt2.com/highest-first-week-sales-in-hiphop-history-69400

  • Oct 31, 2024

    Omg this Sao Paulo song/mv

    Weeknd is fully about to enter his flop era

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