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  • Sep 10, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    Ariana has seen more success than most female artists. Multiple #1 albums, multiple #1/top 10 hits. She has nothing more to prove. And it's not that she doesn't care, it's that the music simply isn't hitting with the GP as much as it once did, which is something every artist who blew up in the 2010s is facing right now. It is what it is.

    Yeah she definitely has nothing to prove but I really do think she had potential to hit way higher levels, I thought during 2018 that she was gonna be seen as this generations Mariah Carey type of artist, but at this rate I don't think she'll be seen anywhere near that level 10-20 years from now.

    she's slowed down her output a lot to focus on other stuff & time is running out fast for her now

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    It's very likely he won't and that's okay.

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Yeah she definitely has nothing to prove but I really do think she had potential to hit way higher levels, I thought during 2018 that she was gonna be seen as this generations Mariah Carey type of artist, but at this rate I don't think she'll be seen anywhere near that level 10-20 years from now.

    she's slowed down her output a lot to focus on other stuff & time is running out fast for her now

    time is running out fast for her now

    Let's wait until Wicked. That's going to be huge for her.

  • Sep 10, 2024
    Malik Nabers Fan

    time is running out fast for her now

    Let's wait until Wicked. That's going to be huge for her.

    Ah yeah true, especially if she releases an album around the same time

  • Sep 10, 2024
    mangotflu

    Yeah she definitely has nothing to prove but I really do think she had potential to hit way higher levels, I thought during 2018 that she was gonna be seen as this generations Mariah Carey type of artist, but at this rate I don't think she'll be seen anywhere near that level 10-20 years from now.

    she's slowed down her output a lot to focus on other stuff & time is running out fast for her now

    Nothing wrong with her doing that plus she was never going to be Mariah's level. Mariah has a 40-year career. Most artists of this generation won't be active for that long or be dominant across 3 decades like Mariah was and that's okay. What matters is that she's been successful and has established herself enough to do whatever she wants.

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    After Hours has only been out for 4 years and that's what every artist is supposed to do.

    Personally I wouldn't want an artist I like to spend 4.5 years w/ continued aesthetics and similar sounding music. Taylor did Folklore and Evermore within 1 year and hasn't stepped into a forest since.

  • Sep 10, 2024

    oh wow

    with one new song in almost 3 years

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    Midzy

    Personally I wouldn't want an artist I like to spend 4.5 years w/ continued aesthetics and similar sounding music. Taylor did Folklore and Evermore within 1 year and hasn't stepped into a forest since.

    Fair enough but everyone moves differently. The 3 singles off After Hours were really massive. I feel like they messed with the success from Dawn FM and he was better off riding the success of After Hours till at least 2023 before starting a new era. That's one of the things you've gotta live with when you have an album era that's that massive. SZA started pushing singles off SOS in 2020, we're now at the end of 2024. Taylor Swift pushed singles off 1989 from 2014-2016. It happens.

  • Sep 10, 2024

    I don't mind him doing Pop music. He's one of the better male pop stars we have because at least his pop music has an edge to it.

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    Fair enough but everyone moves differently. The 3 singles off After Hours were really massive. I feel like they messed with the success from Dawn FM and he was better off riding the success of After Hours till at least 2023 before starting a new era. That's one of the things you've gotta live with when you have an album era that's that massive. SZA started pushing singles off SOS in 2020, we're now at the end of 2024. Taylor Swift pushed singles off 1989 from 2014-2016. It happens.

    he was better off riding the success of After Hours till at least 2023 before starting a new era

    idk about stretching it all the way to 2023 but i agree he def launched Dawn FM too early. been saying that since the album dropped

  • Sep 10, 2024
    Warren Peace

    he was better off riding the success of After Hours till at least 2023 before starting a new era

    idk about stretching it all the way to 2023 but i agree he def launched Dawn FM too early. been saying that since the album dropped

    Save Your Tears took off in 2021 and he could have rode it's success till the end of 2022/beginning of 2023 and then perhaps started with a new era summer 2023.

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    this what they said about dawn fm, which did half that

    Dawn FM had no physical sales available first week. It absolutely would’ve cleared 300K if it did. None of his albums have ever debuted crazy high with streaming units alone

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    thegreatdivine

    It's very likely he won't and that's okay.

    300K is guaranteed. Y’all are tripping.

    Dawn FM was his only post-Kiss Land album to not reach that figure and it was also his only release without physical sales first week.

    Weeknd First Week Sales (Streaming Only):

    BBTM - 86K
    Starboy - 108K
    My Dear Melancholy, - 101K
    After Hours - 169K
    Dawn FM - 148K

    Dawn’s first week numbers were very consistent with what he’s always done considering only streaming units were counted.

    Hurry Up Tomorrow will definitely clear the 300K mark since it will for sure have physical sales included

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Ariana's career feels annoying to me, she has all the potential to become a legit superstar of her generation & be seen as that girl but it doesn't seem like she cares. She's just fading away into an artist that'll be mostly forgotten in 10-20 years

    she reminds me of katy perry. ppl stop caring once she not attractive no more

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    TheFader

    Dawn FM had no physical sales available first week. It absolutely would’ve cleared 300K if it did. None of his albums have ever debuted crazy high with streaming units alone

    Not this argument again lol, I think you're still living in like 2016

    Dawn FM physicals were for sale from day 1, shipped week 3, he sold a measly 37k of them from Day 1 - week 3

    no R&B/hiphop/pop artist is doing 100k physicals except Taylor now unless they do cheesy digital album bullshit which The Weeknd is almost certainly gonna do

    even Ariana Grande just did 42k with Positions, 77k with eternal sunshine and she had to really push the hell out of vinyls to hit 77k. the weeknd is not doing 150k

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    Yapper

    she reminds me of katy perry. ppl stop caring once she not attractive no more

    Ariana is so much more skilled than Katy Perry. She could record a random acoustic cover album and it would be amazing. She's a generational singer.

  • Sep 10, 2024
    Plight

    Ariana is so much more skilled than Katy Perry. She could record a random acoustic cover album and it would be amazing. She's a generational singer.

    so u explain whats the difference this era

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    TheFader

    300K is guaranteed. Y’all are tripping.

    Dawn FM was his only post-Kiss Land album to not reach that figure and it was also his only release without physical sales first week.

    Weeknd First Week Sales (Streaming Only):

    BBTM - 86K
    Starboy - 108K
    My Dear Melancholy, - 101K
    After Hours - 169K
    Dawn FM - 148K

    Dawn’s first week numbers were very consistent with what he’s always done considering only streaming units were counted.

    Hurry Up Tomorrow will definitely clear the 300K mark since it will for sure have physical sales included

    yeah but ur missing the fact that everyone's pure sales are down by 50-80% since 2016-2018

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Not this argument again lol, I think you're still living in like 2016

    Dawn FM physicals were for sale from day 1, shipped week 3, he sold a measly 37k of them from Day 1 - week 3

    no R&B/hiphop/pop artist is doing 100k physicals except Taylor now unless they do cheesy digital album bullshit which The Weeknd is almost certainly gonna do

    even Ariana Grande just did 42k with Positions, 77k with eternal sunshine and she had to really push the hell out of vinyls to hit 77k. the weeknd is not doing 150k

    Delusion

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    yeah but ur missing the fact that everyone's pure sales are down by 50-80% since 2016-2018

    Aight man. When he clears 300K easily first week I’ma be the first to let you know

  • Sep 10, 2024
    TheFader

    Delusion

    I present facts and it's "delusion" lol ok buddy

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    TheFader

    Aight man. When he clears 300K easily first week I’ma be the first to let you know

    Yeah I'm sure he'll do it w/ digital albums & you'll be the first to pretend that doesn't matter

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    mangotflu

    Yeah I'm sure he'll do it w/ digital albums & you'll be the first to pretend that doesn't matter

    Here you go moving the goalposts already

    He’s clearing 300K with or without digital exclusives

  • Sep 10, 2024
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    Niggas been harping on Dawn FM’s numbers for years and throwing all context out the window

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