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  • May 18, 2024
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    LUKAS

    I love how you say say all of you think he’ll do monstrous numbers after i just said it depends what type of album he drops

    If he drops a commercially appealing album similiar to DAMN. then i’d expect it to do similiar numbers to it. When Kendrick drops mainstream appealing albums, they have long and lasting mainstream success

    Also, noone argues against this beef benefiting him. But it’s the semantic narrative that its ONLY cos he’s beefing with Drake that he’s seeing this ridiculous success. If he dropped some duds as a diss, they wouldnt be seeing the same numbers

    I just feel a handful of Drake stans are discrediting how good the disses are to just ‘oh its only cos he’s beefing with Drake’. Is it one of the reasons? Yes. Is it the only reason? No. Simple as that

    You do realize over half of DAMN's first week numbers were due to physicals, right? (exactly 353k of the 603k it moved in its first week were from physicals/pure sales). I don't see him ever touching those numbers again but hopefully he does because it'll be good for hip-hop.

    meet the grahams peaking at #12 wasn't because it was a "great diss," let's just stop lol. If Kendrick drops that song at any other time, it probably won't crack the Hot 100 (reminder that The Hillbillies, a much catchier song released with a music video, peaked at #93 on the Hot 100 and that dropped around this time a year ago).

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what Kendrick dropped. All he had to do was drop something — people were gonna rush to support it if only to spite Drake. Of course, if he dropped a song that was catchy enough, that'd stick longer but whatever he dropped was always gonna peak high, so long as it was aimed at Drake.

    Megan Thee Stallion had the same exact thing happen to her. HISS is one of the worst songs of the year but it managed a #1 debut. Why? It's a diss track aimed at Nicki Minaj, another musician who is hated online and by most of social media. Many people who bought/streamed HISS did so because that was their way of sticking it to Nicki. That's it. I bet you all my money that if Cardi B drops a single aimed at Nicki, it'll see similar chart activity to HISS. That's just how some of these things work.

    Obviously, Kendrick has many hit records that have nothing to do with Drake and I believe he can make a hit record on command whenever he pleases. However, do I think he can make a hit record as huge as Not Like Us without him taking aim at someone like Drake? F*** no. Why? Because the song is already set to be the biggest hit of his career (yes, even bigger than HUMBLE.)

    With all of that being said, I am looking forward to Kendrick's next album. I've said it here before that the only Kendrick album I didn't care much for was MMATBS and I hope his next album hits the mark for me. We'll see what happens.

  • May 18, 2024
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    You do realize over half of DAMN's first week numbers were due to physicals, right? (exactly 353k of the 603k it moved in its first week were from physicals/pure sales). I don't see him ever touching those numbers again but hopefully he does because it'll be good for hip-hop.

    meet the grahams peaking at #12 wasn't because it was a "great diss," let's just stop lol. If Kendrick drops that song at any other time, it probably won't crack the Hot 100 (reminder that The Hillbillies, a much catchier song released with a music video, peaked at #93 on the Hot 100 and that dropped around this time a year ago).

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what Kendrick dropped. All he had to do was drop something — people were gonna rush to support it if only to spite Drake. Of course, if he dropped a song that was catchy enough, that'd stick longer but whatever he dropped was always gonna peak high, so long as it was aimed at Drake.

    Megan Thee Stallion had the same exact thing happen to her. HISS is one of the worst songs of the year but it managed a #1 debut. Why? It's a diss track aimed at Nicki Minaj, another musician who is hated online and by most of social media. Many people who bought/streamed HISS did so because that was their way of sticking it to Nicki. That's it. I bet you all my money that if Cardi B drops a single aimed at Nicki, it'll see similar chart activity to HISS. That's just how some of these things work.

    Obviously, Kendrick has many hit records that have nothing to do with Drake and I believe he can make a hit record on command whenever he pleases. However, do I think he can make a hit record as huge as Not Like Us without him taking aim at someone like Drake? F*** no. Why? Because the song is already set to be the biggest hit of his career (yes, even bigger than HUMBLE.)

    With all of that being said, I am looking forward to Kendrick's next album. I've said it here before that the only Kendrick album I didn't care much for was MMATBS and I hope his next album hits the mark for me. We'll see what happens.

    NLU is set to be one of the biggest hits of this decade, not just for Kendrick

    I meant similiar numbers in todays world. So if he drops a DAMN/GKMC style album this year, i would expect it to do 4-500k. But imma be honest, i dont track streaming patterns like that, so i dont know whats good or bad anymore lol

  • May 18, 2024
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    thegreatdivine

    You do realize over half of DAMN's first week numbers were due to physicals, right? (exactly 353k of the 603k it moved in its first week were from physicals/pure sales). I don't see him ever touching those numbers again but hopefully he does because it'll be good for hip-hop.

    meet the grahams peaking at #12 wasn't because it was a "great diss," let's just stop lol. If Kendrick drops that song at any other time, it probably won't crack the Hot 100 (reminder that The Hillbillies, a much catchier song released with a music video, peaked at #93 on the Hot 100 and that dropped around this time a year ago).

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what Kendrick dropped. All he had to do was drop something — people were gonna rush to support it if only to spite Drake. Of course, if he dropped a song that was catchy enough, that'd stick longer but whatever he dropped was always gonna peak high, so long as it was aimed at Drake.

    Megan Thee Stallion had the same exact thing happen to her. HISS is one of the worst songs of the year but it managed a #1 debut. Why? It's a diss track aimed at Nicki Minaj, another musician who is hated online and by most of social media. Many people who bought/streamed HISS did so because that was their way of sticking it to Nicki. That's it. I bet you all my money that if Cardi B drops a single aimed at Nicki, it'll see similar chart activity to HISS. That's just how some of these things work.

    Obviously, Kendrick has many hit records that have nothing to do with Drake and I believe he can make a hit record on command whenever he pleases. However, do I think he can make a hit record as huge as Not Like Us without him taking aim at someone like Drake? F*** no. Why? Because the song is already set to be the biggest hit of his career (yes, even bigger than HUMBLE.)

    With all of that being said, I am looking forward to Kendrick's next album. I've said it here before that the only Kendrick album I didn't care much for was MMATBS and I hope his next album hits the mark for me. We'll see what happens.

    megan did not have the "same exact thing" happen

    are you retar ded

  • May 18, 2024
    LUKAS

    NLU is set to be one of the biggest hits of this decade, not just for Kendrick

    I meant similiar numbers in todays world. So if he drops a DAMN/GKMC style album this year, i would expect it to do 4-500k. But imma be honest, i dont track streaming patterns like that, so i dont know whats good or bad anymore lol

    A 400-500k debut isn't impossible but to pull it off, he'd need to pull massive streams and/or sales.

    CLB debuted with 613k units with 573k units from that total coming from streams (743M US streams) and 46k units coming from digital sales.

    This is the breakdown of the debut week numbers of Kendrick's last 2 studio albums:
    DAMN. (2017): 603k units (353k units from pure sales & 340M US streams).
    Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers (2022): 295k units (35k units from pure sales & 343M US streams).

  • May 18, 2024
    Zero

    megan did not have the "same exact thing" happen

    are you retar ded

    Not exactly the same but she got a diss song aimed at a bigger artist than her to debut at #1. That's exactly what Kendrick did with Not Like Us. The main differences are that Kendrick is a much bigger artist and Not Like Us is a much better song compared to HISS.

  • May 18, 2024
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    jynth

    I’d be more inclined to believe in this diss stimulus stuff if:

    a) it happened to literally anybody else he’s been beefing with

    b) drake’s own singles hadn’t been underperforming recently

    drake had the same eyes on him that kendrick did. only one of them was able to do this. if drake had the smash instead you wouldn’t see me trying to spin that as a W for kendrick in any capacity

    I’ll concede your point if drake’s next single is a force. otherwise to me it looks like drake just isn’t as far away from everyone else as he used to be in hitmaking ability

    Its 100% because of the disses idk why that part is up for debate? Now you could argue that its because Kendrick won to general public but to say its unrelated is crazy ☠️

  • May 18, 2024
    pimpin

    Why hasn’t Drake had a real hit in years?
    Why did "First Person Shooter" flop?
    Why did "Polar Opposites" flop with only 6 million views on YouTube?
    Why did the single with Sexy Red and SZA flop with just 20 million views after 3 months?
    Why does "Broke My Heart" have only 12 million views even with a music video?
    Why did "Family Matters" end up at number 8 instead of number 1 if Drake’s supposed to be the king of streams?
    Why did "Heart Part 6" flop?
    Why does no one listen to "Push Ups"?
    Why does "8pm in Charlotte" have only 4 million views on YouTube?

    Drake hasn’t been as popular as he used to be for a while now. Forget the views and streams, look at the quality. Check out this music video...

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9msKu75qs

    Clown s***. This is what you support? This is hip hop to you? You cool with Drake literally shaking his gay ass? LOL.

    Id take quality music over Drake’s crap that's losing its appeal to more and more people.

    Kendrick is already one of the GOATs, even if he never sells another album. He’s probably going to end up with the most Grammys of any hip hop artist in history. He won a Pulitzer Prize, something Blackface Drake will never achieve with his trash music.

    Kendrick is mentioned alongside legends like Jay-Z, Quincy Jones, and Stevie Wonder, while you're hyped about some Canadian culture vulture twerking his ass off for likes and views, LOL.

    Why hasn’t Drake had a real hit in years?

    Lie.

    Why did "First Person Shooter" flop?
    Lie its 2x platinum eligible

    Why did the single with Sexy Red and SZA flop with just 20 million views after 3 months?

    Lie its 2x platinum eligible

  • May 18, 2024
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    Zero

    megan did not have the "same exact thing" happen

    are you retar ded

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    Niggas still in here trying to discredit Kendrick Lamar like he's some random SoundCloud rapper that only popped because of a Drake diss

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    My Turn

    That song was a one week wonder with a music video and never even cross 2M daily US Spotify streams.

    NLU being a diss definitely helps but it’s transcending “diss” record label and is legit one of the biggest hits ever during first two weeks. We will see how it will hold up but it’s holding up doing 5M US streams a day 2 weeks in.

    I went out last night and it was being played every 30 min at the club with a popping reception.

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    Expert

    That song was a one week wonder with a music video and never even cross 2M daily US Spotify streams.

    NLU being a diss definitely helps but it’s transcending “diss” record label and is legit one of the biggest hits ever during first two weeks. We will see how it will hold up but it’s holding up doing 5M US streams a day 2 weeks in.

    I went out last night and it was being played every 30 min at the club with a popping reception.

    NLU def wouldve been a hit either way for sure. Just not as big imo.

  • May 18, 2024

    Preview numbers should drop later today.

  • May 18, 2024
    My Turn

    NLU def wouldve been a hit either way for sure. Just not as big imo.

    This is definitely a fair assessment. I'd say the same about Like That as well. Even without Kendrick's verse, it'd be a hit but Kendrick going at Drake made it that much bigger of a record.

  • May 18, 2024
  • My Turn

    Its 100% because of the disses idk why that part is up for debate? Now you could argue that its because Kendrick won to general public but to say its unrelated is crazy ☠️

    But what's the point of this argument? It's a beef between Drake and Kendrick. Y'all trying to paint it as it needed a Drake diss to be popular. It's just a good song first and foremost

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    ManU Minute
    https://twitter.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1791895882918666546

    all this account does is gas stan wars

  • May 18, 2024
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    ragedsycokiller

    You don't think that Kendrick fans did support the album and majority of the people breaking these streams are casuals music listeners?

    Y'all keep acting like like his Mr Morale tour wasn't successful and nearly sold out

    Morale sold 20 units a week before this beef

  • May 18, 2024

    Mr Morale first week sales looking better by the day

  • Plight

    Morale sold 20 units a week before this beef

    Man where do y'all get these numbers? Do y'all subscribe and pay for streaming reports?

    Someone get me the numbers for honestly nevermind Drake's only flop album just like Kendrick's

  • May 18, 2024
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    Saturday, May 18, 2024

    HARD LAUNCH: EILISH GOES BIG AGAIN

    Darkroom/Interscope's Billie Eilish will have the top debut with HIT ME HARD AND SOFT. The 10-track set is punching above its weight in streams, scoring careers highs in global (73m) and U.S. (24m) Spotify streams for Eilish in its first day.

    Projecting to log 130-150m streams in its opening week, we have Billie's third LP opening in the range of 240-260k, which puts HARD in line to surpass HAPPIER THAN EVER's first week total.

    Other noteworthy stats from HARD's first day include "LUNCH" posting 10.8m streams—Spot's top global debut, as well as HARD doubling HAPPIER THAN EVER's first-day global stream count.

    Stay tuned for more updates on Monday. Now if you'll excuse us, we're suddenly in the mood for soft serve.

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    Plight

    Morale sold 20 units a week before this beef

    It’s almost like it’s a 2 year old album with very difficult topics to address

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