most of kendrick hate for his sales was because his stans thought he would easily outsell drake. if they were more humble people wouldnt care that his projections kept dropping every day.

how da f*** her number jump😂😂

???

This convo was about which album had the bigger features, how did you manage to spin that into a victim narrative

It wasn't just that. Many Kendrick fans also mocked CLB's numbers and boldly claimed his next album would easily outdo it (casually forgetting how much the music landscape had changed since DAMN. dropped and what that meant for album debut numbers moving forward).

I spent the first few pages of this thread trying to get some of them to manage commercial expectations on whatever Kendrick's follow-up to DAMN. would be but many of them still thought he'd easily put up numbers around the 700k-1M range.

Cole is not that big anymore? He’s been putting on one of the biggest festivals in rap music for the past three straight years, his last album did pretty well, and The Fall Off is highly anticipated. How is he not that big anymore?

Also, SZA, Bunny, and Cole were all bigger in 2023 than any of the CLB feature names were in 2021. It’s like literally not even close

Nigga, hush. Aren't you the same person who was on here saying niche artists who feature on Drake songs are the reason why Drake songs become hits and not because of Drake himself?

Or maybe… Drake and Kanye are just 15+ and 20+ years into their respective careers so they won’t be selling as high as their commercial peaks anymore?

Inserting yourself into a conversation where you aren’t even aware of what the convo is about and then deflecting when called out on it

I was literally DEFENDING For All The Dogs and somehow that still got spun into “Drake is a victim”

Crazy how you understand this but you're determined to paint Drake no longer scoring hits as big as when he was at his commercial peak as some sort of massive L.

You have common sense when it comes to Kanye's commercial limitations relative to how long he's been active in the game but all that goes out the window when it's time to have discussions about Drake

I never once said it was an L

Y’all really be creating entire narratives man

I said a hundred times it wasn’t a bad thing, it’s just an acknowledgment of the current situation

I'm not deflecting s***. You've spent the last week talking down on Drake's impact on the success of his own music.

I literally said THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT

"Cole is not that big anymore? He’s been putting on one of the biggest festivals in rap music for the past three straight years, his last album did pretty well, and The Fall Off is highly anticipated. How is he not that big anymore?
Also, SZA, Bunny, and Cole were all bigger in 2023 than any of the CLB feature names were in 2021. It’s like literally not even close"

lie 😭😭

cole def not bigger than lil baby in 2021 pls be serious. my turn one of biggest albums this decade and its only me passed off season in sales

And you’ve spent the last week misconstruing non-hostile opinions to spin them into some weird victim complex

Lil Baby literally performed at Cole’s own festival in 2022… but sure he’s bigger than him!

Carnival went #1 and you IMMEDIATELY started pushing narratives about Drake not having any legitimate hits this decade. All because Kanye scored his first hit in forever.

Keep acting like all your posts aren't all these just a few pages back, though

No I didn’t

The first time I mentioned Drake in reference to Carnival was in response to someone else, the thread was already talking about it before I entered

Also I’ve been saying Drake doesn’t have any major hits this decade for a while now, way before Carnival was even a song, it has nothing to do with Kanye

Has nothing to do with a victim complex. I can just see through your bullshit attempts at trying to talk down on Drake's impact and commercial dominance.

You spent several pages trying to push the narrative that Drake's hits this decade aren't because of Drake anymore but because of niche artists who he features on his songs. You spent several pages trying to push the narrative that since 2018, he no longer scores hits at all. Both blatant lies. When numbers got brought up to refute your silly points, you deferred to "well, numbers aren't everything" (when discussing commercial success — the one part of the music industry that directly ties in with numbers )

All these posts by you are still up btw. Me calling you out on those stupid statements isn't me trying to paint Drake as a victim. It's just me calling you on out on your dumb statements lmao.

I never once said that man

I said he doesn’t have any MAJOR hits, and that he doesn’t have any MAJOR SOLO hits since 2018.

Nobody’s trying to talk down on anyone’s impact, the guy is my second favorite rapper of all time and one of my most listened to artists year after year. I can still be objective and not act like the guy can do no wrong though.

I can literally link my Apple Music Replay, I’m not lying about being a Drake fan nor am I “quietly” listening to his music, everyone who knows me knows I’m a huge Drake fan

That’s always the response whenever an actual fan critiques him for you

He’s not perfect, no artist is

His commercial dominance has nothing to do with him being perfect or not. These aren't debates about the quality of his music. You tried multiple times in the last few days to downplay his dominance on rap (a stupid thing to do when he has remained the most dominant rap artist for the better part of two decades) and when you got called out on it, you started crying about people making him out to be a victim when they're just calling out the stupidity in your statements. If it's not downplaying his impact, it's trying to credit other people for his own success. Just consistent stupidity when it comes to your points.

Also, no one gives a f*** that you're a Drake fan. Even people who spend all day on here hating on Drake listen to his music. That's not a secret to anyone.