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  • Mar 9, 2024
    Vino

    Idk man, that’s where tiktok has created a more telling divide unlike when U Guessed It or Mo Bamba dropped

    I bet outside of

    Push the f***ing pack off of the porch or break a pound down
    Get this strap, if it happen to blow, it makes surround sounds
    P****cat on my lap, push it back and go to town down
    Putting rap on my back, and I'm blackin', snatchin' crowns

    Most people who learned the song via the trend couldn’t quote you even a bar from the verses, tell you who Baby Tate is or even realize 21 is on the song. It’s a reason the song didn’t blow until the tiktok trend.

    Reversely, you have songs like Die For You or the Keyshia Cole’s song love which were hits when they dropped and are hits now that they caught a trend.

    Then again, maybe it’s always been that way and tiktok (like the Steve Lacy situation) just made it more obvious

  • Mar 9, 2024

    21 Savage having 65m monthly listeners tells you all you need to know about that metric

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    jack johnson

    And? A listener is a listener. Tyla’s 28.3M listeners don’t count because 98% of them are there because of one song? Like I said 10 times, it shows an artist’s reach. The Weeknd has by far the biggest reach on Spotify due to the amount of hits he had in the past years.

    The Weeknd has the most listeners cause he works with popular artists in multiple genres.

    Same reason Travis jumped so high after the Bad Bunny song and why JID had like 70m listeners after the Imagine Dragons song

    Listen to Latin? He got Bad Bunny and a Maluma song
    Spanish - Rosalia
    Kpop - Jennie
    RnB - SZA, Summer
    Pop - Ariana
    Alt - Lana

    Plus he got a song with like every mainstream rapper

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    ninachop
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1766532086373236809

    wow

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    Midzy

    The Weeknd has the most listeners cause he works with popular artists in multiple genres.

    Same reason Travis jumped so high after the Bad Bunny song and why JID had like 70m listeners after the Imagine Dragons song

    Listen to Latin? He got Bad Bunny and a Maluma song
    Spanish - Rosalia
    Kpop - Jennie
    RnB - SZA, Summer
    Pop - Ariana
    Alt - Lana

    Plus he got a song with like every mainstream rapper

    He has that many monthly listeners because he’s the biggest hitmaker of this decade with a string of hits since December 2019 + the rest of his catalogue, while also touring the world and promoting his music constantly.

    His songs are very big with the average person pretty much everywhere (Starboy, Blinding Lights, Save Your Tears, Die For You, etc), including a very important demographic: straight men which is a massive advantage for him.

    Then, there are the collabs I guess…

  • Mar 9, 2024
    ninachop
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1766532086373236809

    Over 2 points

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    Found another old list of Monthly Listeners. From September 2015, when Spotify started showing this feature

    1. The Weeknd (23,972,819 monthly listeners)
    2. Calvin Harris (19,385,281)
    3. Ed Sheeran (19,020,442)
    4. Major Lazer (18,644,843)
    5. Avicii (17,556,994)
    6. Jason Derulo (16,421,327)
    7. Maroon 5 (16,133,024)
    8. Rihanna (15,832,238)
    9. David Guetta (15,767,657)
    10. Kygo (15,684,465)
    11. Wiz Khalifa (15,599,617)
    12. OMI (15,486,162)
    13. Flo Rida (15,401,673)
    14. Skrillex (14,936,261)
    15. Justin Bieber (14,876,316)
    16. Diplo (14,539,224)
    17. One Direction (14,461,940)
    18. Fetty Wap (14,114,919)
    19. Drake (13,658,161)
    20. Kanye West (13,441,205)

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    jack johnson

    He has that many monthly listeners because he’s the biggest hitmaker of this decade with a string of hits since December 2019 + the rest of his catalogue, while also touring the world and promoting his music constantly.

    His songs are very big with the average person pretty much everywhere (Starboy, Blinding Lights, Save Your Tears, Die For You, etc), including a very important demographic: straight men which is a massive advantage for him.

    Then, there are the collabs I guess…

    Collabs over everything for that useless metric.

    Morgan Wallen has 25M monthly listeners because he sticks to 1 genre. (5th best selling artist of 2023 btw)

    21 Savage has 65M monthly listeners because he collabs with many other popular artists.

    There's endless examples lmao.

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    jack johnson

    Found another old list of Monthly Listeners. From September 2015, when Spotify started showing this feature

    1. The Weeknd (23,972,819 monthly listeners)
    2. Calvin Harris (19,385,281)
    3. Ed Sheeran (19,020,442)
    4. Major Lazer (18,644,843)
    5. Avicii (17,556,994)
    6. Jason Derulo (16,421,327)
    7. Maroon 5 (16,133,024)
    8. Rihanna (15,832,238)
    9. David Guetta (15,767,657)
    10. Kygo (15,684,465)
    11. Wiz Khalifa (15,599,617)
    12. OMI (15,486,162)
    13. Flo Rida (15,401,673)
    14. Skrillex (14,936,261)
    15. Justin Bieber (14,876,316)
    16. Diplo (14,539,224)
    17. One Direction (14,461,940)
    18. Fetty Wap (14,114,919)
    19. Drake (13,658,161)
    20. Kanye West (13,441,205)

    5 EDM artists in the top 10, crazy times

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    ninachop
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1766532086373236809

    Add to @op

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    Mar 9, 2024

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    Midzy

    Collabs over everything for that useless metric.

    Morgan Wallen has 25M monthly listeners because he sticks to 1 genre. (5th best selling artist of 2023 btw)

    21 Savage has 65M monthly listeners because he collabs with many other popular artists.

    There's endless examples lmao.

    Country music is weak on Spotify and mostly irrelevant outside the USA. Morgan is massive in the US but not in the rest of the world. It’s a global ranking

    All of these old lists that I posted from 2015, 2017 and 2019 show exactly the acts that were popular at that time, don’t you agree? Reading them is like a time travel machine. So I really don’t see how monthly listeners don’t mean anything at all. Seems like a very accurate depiction of who’s popular right now on Spotify. Like Beyoncé jumping from ~50M to ~70M in the last 3 weeks because of Texas Hold ‘Em and millions of people that weren’t listening to her now playing the song at least once.

    It’s not a perfect metric (people with many features have an advantage) and it’s not definitive, but daily streams are also not entirely accurate representation of artists’ popularity. People that are dropping music constantly will probably have more daily streams than people that don’t, etc

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    Lmao music is officially "cooked" if one of the biggest pop acts in the world is predicted to sell 165-185k fw

  • Mar 9, 2024
    Unforgivable

    Lmao music is officially "cooked" if one of the biggest pop acts in the world is predicted to sell 165-185k fw

    Ariana's biggest first week is 360k, and she only has one other album that's done above 200k first week. Majority of her albums (including her last one) fall within this range.

    I still think this is a slightly disappointing number given this is her big comeback and she had tons of physical variants but yeah.

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    Unforgivable

    Lmao music is officially "cooked" if one of the biggest pop acts in the world is predicted to sell 165-185k fw

    Didn't she sell the same amount with her last album? Doesn't seem like Ariana was ever a big album sales mover, probably more of a singles artist

    (just checked and her last album, Positions sold 170k first week)

  • Mar 9, 2024
    Unforgivable

    Lmao music is officially "cooked" if one of the biggest pop acts in the world is predicted to sell 165-185k fw

    This is her range , shes not a big first week seller

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    all that payola and industry politicking to just sell 20k more than Vultures

    crazy

  • Mar 9, 2024
    Antidote

    5 EDM artists in the top 10, crazy times

    The best times tbh

  • Mar 9, 2024
    jack johnson

    Country music is weak on Spotify and mostly irrelevant outside the USA. Morgan is massive in the US but not in the rest of the world. It’s a global ranking

    All of these old lists that I posted from 2015, 2017 and 2019 show exactly the acts that were popular at that time, don’t you agree? Reading them is like a time travel machine. So I really don’t see how monthly listeners don’t mean anything at all. Seems like a very accurate depiction of who’s popular right now on Spotify. Like Beyoncé jumping from ~50M to ~70M in the last 3 weeks because of Texas Hold ‘Em and millions of people that weren’t listening to her now playing the song at least once.

    It’s not a perfect metric (people with many features have an advantage) and it’s not definitive, but daily streams are also not entirely accurate representation of artists’ popularity. People that are dropping music constantly will probably have more daily streams than people that don’t, etc

    It's cool to see, but I'm pretty sure daily and year-end streams from years back would be more accurate and have less sneaks.

    And I wouldn't say people who drop constantly have more daily streams. One Direction is pulling more daily streams than most artists

  • Mar 9, 2024
    Unforgivable

    Lmao music is officially "cooked" if one of the biggest pop acts in the world is predicted to sell 165-185k fw

    The brainwashing worked, everyone thinks music is supposed to be free.

  • Mar 9, 2024
    thegreatdivine
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1766544817780031534

    its saturday

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    Kinda wanna look at all the 1m+ first week sellers (there’s 24 in history) and see all the patterns

    Should be fun

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    I feel like pop music relies more on staying power than huge first weeks but there’s a lot of big names releasing soon I’m not sure how that might affect Ariana

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