UVST was an anomaly in the US, that shouldn’t be the standard Bad Bunny is held to for the rest of his career (sales wise). But I do agree that the new album was a slight underperformance in the US. But at the same time, that doesn’t mean he’s still not huge globally, because he undoubtedly is, whether he sells 100K copies or a million copies in the US
You really are a f***ing idiot. This is embarrassing.
I don’t think you understand what nuance is
My point was that using US sales figures to gauge how big a Latin artist is is ridiculous.
You said it’s fair considering that he had a huge year in 2022.
Implying that, to you, Bad Bunny was not huge prior to 2022 because he hadn’t had his breakout moment stateside yet.
I never implied anything. You're the one implying that. Bad Bunny scored 2 top 5 hits back in 2018 that also reached #1 on US Rhythmic radio. Last year was clearly his biggest year yet but he has been growing his US fanbase support since at least 2018 when he dropped his debut album.
Two things can be true:
1. Bad Bunny’s new album slightly underperformed in the US.
2. Bad Bunny is still a global superstar, arguably a Top 5 biggest act in the world right now.
My point was that people using Bad Bunny’s US numbers to belittle his global status are stupid
I don’t think you understand what nuance is
I understand. You're just an idiot. You're using "he doesn't speak English" as an excuse when that didn't stop him from being the biggest artist in the entire US just last year. He played an arena AND a stadium tour in the US last year. There was nothing abnormal about his success. He has a massive fanbase in the US. He just announced ANOTHER 47-date arena tour in the US. His third tour in just over a year.
This cope is shameless and embarrassing.
I understand. You're just an idiot. You're using "he doesn't speak English" as an excuse when that didn't stop him from being the biggest artist in the entire US just last year. He played an arena AND a stadium tour in the US last year. There was nothing abnormal about his success. He has a massive fanbase in the US. He just announced ANOTHER 47-date arena tour in the US. His third tour in just over a year.
This cope is shameless and embarrassing.
You don’t understand. You think it’s black or white.
Bad Bunny’s new album slightly underperformed in the first week in the US, and he’s still a global superstar. Both things are true.
The whole point was that even if his US numbers were weak, that doesn’t diminish his global status, which is what users ITT were doing.
Two things can be true:
1. Bad Bunny’s new album slightly underperformed in the US.
2. Bad Bunny is still a global superstar, arguably a Top 5 biggest act in the world right now.
My point was that people using Bad Bunny’s US numbers to belittle his global status are stupid
No one is using his US success to belittle anything. We want to discuss his US success the same way we discuss the US success of other acts in this thread without referring to Spotify global to highlight how successful they are. If I was trying to do this back in 2018, I'd have understood being against it but Bad Bunny has broken the US market now. He has a huge support base here. He isn't some unknown artist. I would argue he's a top 5 touring act in the US right now. You thinking that focusing the discussion about his numbers on the US means belittling his global success is something you made up all on your own.
Taylor Swift will be ranked as the biggest global act this year but I can stick to discussing her US numbers because she's also huge in the US. It doesn't mean I'm trying to belittle her.
I understand. You're just an idiot. You're using "he doesn't speak English" as an excuse when that didn't stop him from being the biggest artist in the entire US just last year. He played an arena AND a stadium tour in the US last year. There was nothing abnormal about his success. He has a massive fanbase in the US. He just announced ANOTHER 47-date arena tour in the US. His third tour in just over a year.
This cope is shameless and embarrassing.
The fact that he is a major artist speaking only spanish is literally abnormal man lol
Glad to see y'all cope about Bad Bunny's US numbers this year, that's all I'm gonna say lmao.
The fact that he is a major artist speaking only spanish is literally abnormal man lol
Nothing abnormal about it. BTS are huge in the US. BlackPink is huge in the US. These are acts who sing in other languages and are selling out US stadiums when many US acts can't dare to do that. Peso Pluma has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Karol G has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Stop coping simply because Bad Bunny's album wasn't as successful as y'all thought it'd be because if he did 400k first week, y'all wouldn't have called that abnormal.
Language isn't a barrier to being successful in the US anymore.
Bad Bunny's "worldwide tour" was just Spanish-speaking countries and the US.
The Weeknd and Taylor's tours are around the world.
Avi checks out on this one
Nothing abnormal about it. BTS are huge in the US. BlackPink is huge in the US. These are acts who sing in other languages and are selling out US stadiums when many US acts can't dare to do that. Peso Pluma has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Karol G has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Stop coping simply because Bad Bunny's album wasn't as successful as y'all thought it'd be because if he did 400k first week, y'all wouldn't have called that abnormal.
Language isn't a barrier to being successful in the US anymore.
Yes, and they are literally f***ing anomalies in their own right. There is a handful of people who can cross language barriers, most of them can't.
Don't care about bad bunny sales but it's stupid to pretend that there isn't a language barrier in the us because a select few have broken through
No one is using his US success to belittle anything. We want to discuss his US success the same way we discuss the US success of other acts in this thread without referring to Spotify global to highlight how successful they are. If I was trying to do this back in 2018, I'd have understood being against it but Bad Bunny has broken the US market now. He has a huge support base here. He isn't some unknown artist. I would argue he's a top 5 touring act in the US right now. You thinking that focusing the discussion about his numbers on the US means belittling his global success is something you made up all on your own.
Taylor Swift will be ranked as the biggest global act this year but I can stick to discussing her US numbers because she's also huge in the US. It doesn't mean I'm trying to belittle her.
There are users ITT who said verbatim “199K? I thought Bad Bunny was a global superstar?”
Nothing abnormal about it. BTS are huge in the US. BlackPink is huge in the US. These are acts who sing in other languages and are selling out US stadiums when many US acts can't dare to do that. Peso Pluma has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Karol G has one of the biggest albums of the year in the US. Stop coping simply because Bad Bunny's album wasn't as successful as y'all thought it'd be because if he did 400k first week, y'all wouldn't have called that abnormal.
Language isn't a barrier to being successful in the US anymore.
That doesn’t make it any less abnormal though, the majority of music consumption in the US is English language music.
It’s why with foreign language artists we only hear about the top of the top in the US, there are no B-tier or C-tier foreign stars that exist in the US like there are with English genres
Bad Bunny missed with this album and not just in the US
That's all anyone needs to say. Doesn't mean he's done. But trying to cope with "he doesn't speak English" or trying to shift focus to global numbers because those look better than his US numbers is a massive cope.
I didn't even say he was done. He's going on a 47-date arena tour early next year and will probably announce a stadium tour that'll kick off before the end of next year. How can anyone call someone that can dominate the US market like that finished?
Fact remains that this album didn't hit the mark the way many people thought and it's not because it was Latin trap (because all but one of his albums has Latin trap elements). We can just agree the album underperformed without coping as to why it happened.
That doesn’t make it any less abnormal though, the majority of music consumption in the US is English language music.
It’s why with foreign language artists we only hear about the top of the top in the US, there are no B-tier or C-tier foreign stars that exist in the US like there are with English genres
Sounds like yall using "and he only speaks Spanish" when he does great and when he does not so great
Gotta pick one
Yes, and they are literally f***ing anomalies in their own right. There is a handful of people who can cross language barriers, most of them can't.
Don't care about bad bunny sales but it's stupid to pretend that there isn't a language barrier in the us because a select few have broken through
But he crossed over in the US and found success so why are you still trying to use language as a barrier to cope for the performance of his latest album when it wasn't a barrier for his last album?
That's all anyone needs to say. Doesn't mean he's done. But trying to cope with "he doesn't speak English" or trying to shift focus to global numbers because those look better than his US numbers is a massive cope.
I didn't even say he was done. He's going on a 47-date arena tour early next year and will probably announce a stadium tour that'll kick off before the end of next year. How can anyone call someone that can dominate the US market like that finished?
Fact remains that this album didn't hit the mark the way many people thought and it's not because it was Latin trap (because all but one of his albums has Latin trap elements). We can just agree the album underperformed without coping as to why it happened.
What’s your type speed WPM
Sounds like yall using "and he only speaks Spanish" when he does great and when he does not so great
Gotta pick one
They have all the excuses now. Funny how that works lmao.
When Un Verano Sin Ti was killing the charts last year, they didn't see it not being an English album as a barrier
But he crossed over in the US and found success so why are you still trying to use language as a barrier to cope for the performance of his latest album when it wasn't a barrier for his last album?
No cope. The album was a trap album and the other was reggaeton lol it's pretty clear on what would resonate better when you can't understand the lyrics