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  • Oct 10, 2023

    Album mid but he will get those numbers

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    It’s just funny because if Drake used these same tactics as his peers, his stans would be quiet about it. The reason his sales will be lower than normal for this album is because he’s refusing to acclimate to the state of the industry right now. Can’t break 600K+ off digital streams only anymore

  • RenBop

    Naw the way Taylor was using those vinyls were def gimmicky

    She had like 15 deluxe editions and remixes man what the hell

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    YoungKobe

    Utopia
    Day 1:
    Global: 128.5 Million
    USA: 49.6 Million
    Day 2:
    Global: 77.9 Million
    USA: 29.8 Million
    Day 3:
    Global: 56.8 Million
    USA: 21.4 Million
    Global Total: 263.2 Million
    USA Total: 100.8 Million

    FatD
    Day 1:
    Global: 108.6 Million
    USA: 58.7 Million
    Day 2:
    Global: 74.4 Million
    USA: 35.3 Million
    Day 3:
    Global: 48.4 Million
    USA: 22.5 Million
    Global Total: 231.4 Million
    USA Total: 116.5 Million

    Utopia
    Day 4:
    Global: 56.2 Million
    USA: 20.8 Million

    Global Total: 319.4 Million
    USA Total: 121.6 Million

    FatD
    Day 4:
    Global: 52 Million
    USA: 24.4 Million

    Global Total: 283.4 Million
    USA Total: 140.9 Million

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    shaleirose

    At the end of the day, all they’ve ever been is the number of how many copies your album sold. That’s it.

    Anyone could buy a copy of an album, play it once, and never play it again. But the sale still counted.

    Streaming measures a different metric, which is why I think it should be looked at and judge differently

    There was a reason for buying the music tho regardless of a sale being a sale

    Less than 0.1% probably bought music back then thinking about album sales but that percentage could theoretically be 50% for Taylor Swift lmao

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    Deezed

    @ANTI

    The other largest streaming week holders for albums were the debuts of Drake’s “Scorpion” (745.92 million; 2018) and “Certified Lover Boy” (743.67 million; 2021), followed by Taylor Swift’s “Midnights” (549.26 million; 2022) and Drake and 21 Savage’s “Her Loss” (513.56 million; 2022). The record replaces the previous fifth-place record-holder, Lil Wayne’s “Tha Carter V” (433.02 million; 2018).

    Taylor is a global streaming giant, but in the US she is behind drake. Midnights streamed the same as Her Loss in the US basically. didnt even get close to CLB or Scorpion

    This is an important point.

    Them Spotify numbers will make people forget Apple Music exists. Drake absolutely runs Apple Music in the US, and I guarantee he’s the most streamed artists in the US every year on Apple Music.

  • Oct 10, 2023
    quadra

    There was a reason for buying the music tho regardless of a sale being a sale

    Less than 0.1% probably bought music back then thinking about album sales but that percentage could theoretically be 50% for Taylor Swift lmao

    There will always be a reason to buy physical media. It might’ve been the literal only way back in the day, but that doesn’t mean it’s meaningless now.

    If Taylor fans feel obliged to come out in droves to support their favorite artist, there’s nothing wrong with that at all. I can’t stand her music but her fanbase loves and adores her and supports her more than any other artist’s does

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    Physical album sales are being called a gimmick by Drake stans I AM FLYING

    I stg standom is actual brain rot

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    Noir

    Physical album sales are being called a gimmick by Drake stans I AM FLYING

    I stg standom is actual brain rot

    It’s so sad the levels they will stoop to for that man.

    They probably don’t even realize that Views only did a million because it cleared 852K in pure sales, even though the album was available on Apple Music and Spotify

  • e t đź‘˝
    Oct 10, 2023
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    Noir

    Physical album sales are being called a gimmick by Drake stans I AM FLYING

    I stg standom is actual brain rot

    Selling a physical album definitely legit but selling an album with 12 different “collectors edition” covers kinda a gimmick ngl

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    shaleirose

    It’s so sad the levels they will stoop to for that man.

    They probably don’t even realize that Views only did a million because it cleared 852K in pure sales, even though the album was available on Apple Music and Spotify

    They know papi would post a four paragraph essay about their personal lives on IG if they had anything bad to say about him

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    e t

    Selling a physical album definitely legit but selling an album with 12 different “collectors edition” covers kinda a gimmick ngl

    It is and there is no good argument to say it isn’t

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    Noir

    Physical album sales are being called a gimmick by Drake stans I AM FLYING

    I stg standom is actual brain rot

    A 6th grader can take a look at what Travis has done with physical album sales historically and see the gamifying and gimmicking of a system to prop up supposed popularity

    He still hasnt shipped some $5 vinyls that "counted" as first week album sales
    Please

    This is not a "Drake stan" thing
    It's common sense

  • Oct 10, 2023
    shaleirose

    It’s so sad the levels they will stoop to for that man.

    They probably don’t even realize that Views only did a million because it cleared 852K in pure sales, even though the album was available on Apple Music and Spotify

    Not saying you are wrong on your point, but it was an Apple Music exclusive upon release which is most likely why the pure sales were so high.

    Plus streaming had just been born around that time.

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    quadra

    A 6th grader can take a look at what Travis has done with physical album sales historically and see the gamifying and gimmicking of a system to prop up supposed popularity

    He still hasnt shipped some $5 vinyls that "counted" as first week album sales
    Please

    This is not a "Drake stan" thing
    It's common sense

    That’s Billboard’s fault, not Travis’s

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    RenBop

    It is and there is no good argument to say it isn’t

    It’s not a gimmick, fans aren’t being forced to buy these extra editions

  • Oct 10, 2023
    quadra

    A 6th grader can take a look at what Travis has done with physical album sales historically and see the gamifying and gimmicking of a system to prop up supposed popularity

    He still hasnt shipped some $5 vinyls that "counted" as first week album sales
    Please

    This is not a "Drake stan" thing
    It's common sense

    Source on unshipped vinyl counting towards his first week?

  • e t đź‘˝
    Oct 10, 2023
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    shaleirose

    It’s not a gimmick, fans aren’t being forced to buy these extra editions

    It’s a gimmick that it counts towards the music charting because fans aren’t buying the music, they just collecting covers lol

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    e t

    It’s a gimmick that it counts towards the music charting because fans aren’t buying the music, they just collecting covers lol

    How are they getting these covers? Remind me again?

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    quadra

    A 6th grader can take a look at what Travis has done with physical album sales historically and see the gamifying and gimmicking of a system to prop up supposed popularity

    He still hasnt shipped some $5 vinyls that "counted" as first week album sales
    Please

    This is not a "Drake stan" thing
    It's common sense

    Who cares

  • Oct 10, 2023
    shaleirose

    It’s just funny because if Drake used these same tactics as his peers, his stans would be quiet about it. The reason his sales will be lower than normal for this album is because he’s refusing to acclimate to the state of the industry right now. Can’t break 600K+ off digital streams only anymore

    This probably the most important thing in this thread. They’d be buying the vinyls magazines hoodies no problem but they’ve used it as an excuse as to why he’s not selling enough and still can’t be compared

    But again still, drake used to outsell with digital only. He can’t do that anymore, meaning he has lost some of his dominance. It doesn’t really matter bc he’s rich enough to never have to care about anything ever again if he so chooses

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    quadra

    A 6th grader can take a look at what Travis has done with physical album sales historically and see the gamifying and gimmicking of a system to prop up supposed popularity

    He still hasnt shipped some $5 vinyls that "counted" as first week album sales
    Please

    This is not a "Drake stan" thing
    It's common sense

    No one

    Not one person

    Is telling Drake to game the system.

    Doing a super basic vinyl run with minimal promo for people who care about his music is not gaming the system. It's just something cool to do for fans. Every other artist does it and he's not above that.

  • Oct 10, 2023
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    shaleirose

    That’s Billboard’s fault, not Travis’s

    So you agree with what's being said, the streams are showing the real story?

    Because I'm not interested in whose "fault" it is

  • e t đź‘˝
    Oct 10, 2023
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    shaleirose

    How are they getting these covers? Remind me again?

    I’m saying the music itself doesn’t change. Like you could sell a blank cd with a cover and get the same result. Fans are obviously not buying it because they want 12 copies of the same album

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    quadra

    So you agree with what's being said, the streams are showing the real story?

    Because I'm not interested in whose "fault" it is

    No, I’m saying that sales not counting until something ships is a stupid and pointless change Billboard made. If a sale is made, a sale is made.

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