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  • May 19, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    That won't be happening because artists used that to game the charts. This is the way it works for movies and video games so why should music be different? Your pre-orders never count as actual sale units until the units have been shipped out. That's how labels used to cook numbers for their artists in the past. They'd print 2 million copies of an album and declare it as 2 million albums sold for their artist, meanwhile, those albums are still on the shelves 5 years later.

    If artists want their pre-orders to count the week their albums drop, all they have to do is ensure they ship out all their pre-orders the week their albums drop. That's what Harry Styles is doing for his album so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    The issue is vinyl production plants have been backed up ever since 2020, so it’s virtually impossible right now to have physicals ready to go first week. Billboard should update the rule to reflect this obstacle until things go back to normal.

  • May 19, 2022

    The only changed Billboard might be willing to make it so weigh streams more and even then, it'll benefit hip-hop artists the most because they're the ones whose albums stream the best.

  • May 19, 2022
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    Zack From The Six

    Shouldn't you be in the most delusional thread in KTTs history? Why are you in here.

    What thread would that be?

  • May 19, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    It isn't if you plan it well. How did Adele manage to make it happen? How did Taylor Swift pull it off? Harry Styles is also about to do the same thing.

    Put your album up for pre-order months before the album drops and ready the shipments to go out the week the album drops. There are 7 days in a tracking week so you don't have to ship everything out in one day. You can spread it out over 7 days. It's really not that hard if you insist on getting those sales to count for you.

    Adele, Taylor, and Harry are three of the biggest artists in the world. Holding every single artist to their standard on vinyl production is ridiculous. They have pull and reach that 95% of artists don’t have.

  • May 19, 2022
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    Exactly. Same with singles too tbh. It's many singles that debut at #1 and fall off the next week but some never reach #1 but linger enough in the top 10 to surpass those that peaked higher.

  • May 19, 2022
    shaleirose

    The issue is vinyl production plants have been backed up ever since 2020, so it’s virtually impossible right now to have physicals ready to go first week. Billboard should update the rule to reflect this obstacle until things go back to normal.

    Fair enough.

  • May 19, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    Then drop your album without vinyls, do the numbers you'll do and keep it moving (like most artists have been doing since the rule change). How hard is that? Lol.

    Some smaller artists do big numbers with vinyl though, especially in rap. Guys like Denzel, Freddie, Westside Gunn, etc. They’re all smaller acts than the three you named and don’t have the ability to get vinyl produced as fast as them right now because everything’s backed up.

  • May 19, 2022
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    iGOAT

    What thread would that be?

    Oh, you know. The thread about the so-called 100/100 instant classic all time great album.

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    shaleirose

    Adele, Taylor, and Harry are three of the biggest artists in the world. Holding every single artist to their standard on vinyl production is ridiculous. They have pull and reach that 95% of artists don’t have.

    Well, then if you're not as big as them, why are you so concerned with first week numbers when you probably won't move that many units from vinyl sales anyways? Just live with whatever units you move that first week and ship the vinyl units when you can. The sales will count all the same against it's totals.

  • May 19, 2022
    Zack From The Six

    Oh, you know. The thread about the so-called 100/100 instant classic all time great album.

    So insecure

  • May 19, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    Well, then if you're not as big as them, why are you so concerned with first week numbers when you probably won't move that many units from vinyl sales anyways? Just live with whatever units you move that first week and ship the vinyl units when you can. The sales will count all the same against it's totals.

    They should be all the more concerned because that’s a big corner of their already small first week numbers getting erased.

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    It's a full flop compared to his old singles tbh

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    True.

  • May 19, 2022

    Thread is def for people on Twitter too much like TGD and Zack.

  • May 19, 2022

    I think he'll have Physicals available first week, and I feel like his fanbase would buy

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    Post couldn't find a hit. Guess he won't sell that much.

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    You worried bout a multimillionaire maybe not selling as well as before?

  • May 19, 2022
    g6ntiana

    It's a full flop compared to his old singles tbh

    I feel like post ain’t finna outsell bad bunny tbh first week

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    He clearly wants to make pop rock so no

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