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  • May 18, 2022
    Freight

    No it doesn’t. You can’t point to any objective measure of why those resemble side projects but More Life is more akin to a studio album

    I’ve broke this down multiple times now:

    IYRTITL - bar heavy, rap focused, no pop crossover, minimal features, less than 20 songs, no lead single

    WATTBA - collab project with Future, so obviously wouldn’t count as a solo Drake studio album

    DLDT - a collection of looses/leaks that were made during the recording sessions for CLB. Also probably his most bar heavy project since IYRTITL, not much pop crossover, less than 15 songs, & released during the first months of lockdown

    More Life has all of the makings of a Drake studio album: 20+ song tracklist, heavy pop crossover appeal, a nice blend between rap/R&B/pop/world sounds, various high profile features, a lead single, and a by-the-numbers Drake album outro

  • May 18, 2022
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    Stantm4444

    Midricks fans pulling at straws at this point, its all they have

    How are you still on KTT? You bet your account Kendrick wouldnt do more than 125k

    Do I need to personally contact a mod, because I will if you want

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    shaleirose

    Niggas act like I’m here claiming Kendrick beats Drake every year that’s not the case

    If it was a 12 round fight, Drake’s won literally 11 rounds, why’s it so hard for y’all to admit that Kendrick got the 1

    Because despite Drake being the biggest artist of 2016 and 2017 being Kendrick's biggest career year, Drake still outdid Kendrick in 2017


    Most consumed artists of 2017 (US):

    And just in case you think Kendrick might have outdone Drake in any way globally, think again:

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    mr get dough

    How are you still on KTT? You bet your account Kendrick wouldnt do more than 125k

    Do I need to personally contact a mod, because I will if you want

    YOU tried to make a bet, I never said I was into the bet. Leave me alone, creep.

  • May 18, 2022
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    shaleirose

    More Life is the farthest thing from a mixtape.

    IYRTITL is a mixtape.

    WATTBA is a mixtape.

    DLDT is a mixtape, although it’s closer to a B-sides.

    More Life is an album that was promoted as a “playlist”, so y’all won’t count it

    Okay, now you just sound dumb lol.

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    Because despite Drake being the biggest artist of 2016 and 2017 being Kendrick's biggest career year, Drake still outdid Kendrick in 2017


    Most consumed artists of 2017 (US):

    And just in case you think Kendrick might have outdone Drake in any way globally, think again:

    Don’t move the goalposts now. Rap has always been a first week numbers game. Kendrick won in 2017.

  • May 18, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    Okay, now you just sound dumb lol.

    And you actually are dumb for not understanding what I’m saying, I’ve broke down multiple times now why More Life is extremely different from IYRTITL, DLDT, and WATTBA

  • May 18, 2022
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    Because despite Drake being the biggest artist of 2016 and 2017 being Kendrick's biggest career year, Drake still outdid Kendrick in 2017


    Most consumed artists of 2017 (US):

    And just in case you think Kendrick might have outdone Drake in any way globally, think again:

    LET’S GO QUEEN

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    Stantm4444

    YOU tried to make a bet, I never said I was into the bet. Leave me alone, creep.

    You must stand on your word to have honor as a man. If you weren’t willing to bet on it then why did you say it, are you trying to tell me you don’t believe in your word? Smh, I will set the ban up though. No problem thank me later

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    shaleirose

    Even those are all MUCH different situations than More Life.

    More Life literally plays as a bigger, more expansive Views, with 5x the amount of features.

    IYRTITL is a bar heavy mixtape with minimal features with no pop crossover appeal (unlike Views, More Life, Scorpion, and CLB)

    WATTBA is a collab album.

    DLDT is a collection of leaks and looses that didn’t make CLB.

    This is why I’m saying More Life (even it’s technically not a studio album) getting treated as a little side project is delusion

    Why does having 5x the amount of features means it’s more reminiscent of a studio album? NWTS, Views, and Scorp all had minimal features. Wouldn’t having more features means he’s treating the project as something more akin to Cruel Summer or a Dreamville tape, where he’s just making music with all his friends?

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    I actually think Drake fans needa be harder on him. He should not be selling more and getting worst in his prime. Unless we saying it’s not his prime.

    Way Too Sexy should never exist lmao

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    Freight

    Why does having 5x the amount of features means it’s more reminiscent of a studio album? NWTS, Views, and Scorp all had minimal features. Wouldn’t having more features means he’s treating the project as something more akin to Cruel Summer or a Dreamville tape, where he’s just making music with all his friends?

    Take Care and CLB had extensive feature lists

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    BIGJADA10

    I actually think Drake fans needa be harder on him. He should not be selling more and getting worst in his prime. Unless we saying it’s not his prime.

    Way Too Sexy should never exist lmao

    Way Too Sexy hard

  • May 18, 2022
    mr get dough

    You must stand on your word to have honor as a man. If you weren’t willing to bet on it then why did you say it, are you trying to tell me you don’t believe in your word? Smh, I will set the ban up though. No problem thank me later

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    thegreatdivine

    Because despite Drake being the biggest artist of 2016 and 2017 being Kendrick's biggest career year, Drake still outdid Kendrick in 2017


    Most consumed artists of 2017 (US):

    And just in case you think Kendrick might have outdone Drake in any way globally, think again:

    Ed Sheeran better than Drake in 2017 objectively

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    BIGJADA10

    I actually think Drake fans needa be harder on him. He should not be selling more and getting worst in his prime. Unless we saying it’s not his prime.

    Way Too Sexy should never exist lmao

    They really worried bout the wrong things.

    His sales are great but he hasn’t dropped a legitimately great project since 2015, and he’s my second favorite rapper. Just sucks to see a dude with so much talent sell himself short creatively every single go round

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    shaleirose

    Don’t move the goalposts now. Rap has always been a first week numbers game. Kendrick won in 2017.

    The whole point of Drake outdoing Kendrick wasn't just that he outsold him in his first week, it was that he outsold him the entire year lmao.

    Especially now that we're in the streaming era when first week numbers aren't everything. Donda did 309k first week but it's barely moved 1M units while CLB is almost at 3M units. First week numbers aren't the only thing that matters.

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    John Mauve

    Ed Sheeran better than Drake in 2017 objectively

    Ed Sheeran didn't release 2 projects in 2015 and an album in 2016.

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    thegreatdivine

    The whole point of Drake outdoing Kendrick wasn't just that he outsold him in his first week, it was that he outsold him the entire year lmao.

    Especially now that we're in the streaming era when first week numbers aren't everything. Donda did 309k first week but it's barely moved 1M units while CLB is almost at 3M units. First week numbers aren't the only thing that matters.

    Whole time I’ve only been referring to the first week numbers because that’s the game that rap plays. First week has always mattered more in rap than almost every other genre

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    thegreatdivine

    Ed Sheeran didn't release 2 projects in 2015 and an album in 2016.

    you guys have no sense of humour man

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    the day drake sells under 350k fw for a solo album is gonna be a day for the books on here

  • May 18, 2022
    John Mauve

    you guys have no sense of humour man

    They’re the worst part about this site it’s disgusting

  • May 18, 2022
    shaleirose

    Take Care and CLB had extensive feature lists

    And those are each like five years removed from More Life. It’s clear that More Life is not indicative of what a studio album from Drake meant at that point in time.

    Arguing that More Life is a serious release because he put a bunch of UK rappers that no one outside of the UK actually listens to makes no sense

  • May 18, 2022
    jynth

    the day drake sells under 350k fw for a solo album is gonna be a day for the books on here

    By then Kendrick selling 50k fw like T.I. so it’s all good

  • May 18, 2022
    shaleirose

    Whole time I’ve only been referring to the first week numbers because that’s the game that rap plays. First week has always mattered more in rap than almost every other genre

    I don't disagree with that but this particular discussion was never just about the first week. People legit believed Kendrick had a bigger year than Drake in 2017 and I provided data to prove that's false.

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