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  • Mar 25, 2021
    SUPERMAN

    Wait what happened

    Warner Media CEO He pushed for the Snyder Cut

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    Fella

    “BvS opens in auto-critique of it's predecessor's finale before shifting into a relentless mode of construction, creating a sense of a modern-day "palace intrigue," something mitigated by Snyder re-applying the magnificent world building of Man of Steel to, essentially, the world as-it-is, in BVS. The lure of the film lies here: through this maneuver which basically places comic-book characters into a kind of simulacra of reality (the opposite of the Nolan approach, actually, which is to create a comic book simulacra of normality) which naturally ends up identifying the weaker planks of a socio-political system - something only pointed towards in Man of Steel (the simultaneously poetic and ironic imagery of Superman turning himself in, walking down halls in handcuffs) but expanded upon here in ways to an extent that I could have never expected. It's also perhaps a reason why this was so viscerally reacted against back in 2016, this idea of placing the seemingly transcendentally superhuman within such a dour reality. Unlike its predecessor, the film takes place entirely in "the world as it is" - a vast political theatre so outmoded, with planks so obvious, that it can so easily be manipulated by a corporate figure. In fact, even if Lex didn't actually win in the end, it would still be a complete deux-ex machina, because superheroes don't actually exist. Nearly the entire film - literally until Batman nearly kills Superman - takes place within Lex's theatre of normality. It's no surprise then that BVS can get to the heart of this alienation.

    Batman himself is the vision of the world as it is, Superman is the vision of the world as it could be - even as heroes find themselves at last. People mocked the finale initially - even with its remarkable visual beauty - as being like Snyder crashing action figures together. But that's essentially what it is, with superheroes at last in this film taking their rightful place. We at last see the iconography, the statues, the toys, in action - the climax becomes a beautiful play of figurines, and one can see how much a deconstruction is necessary in order to understand why we create these superhuman, mythological figures in the first place. So as such, it's actually quite moving to see Superman's eventual death, because it reflects a world so horrible that martyr's are still necessary, even with the toys you played with as a child.” - Neil Bahadur

    I think he delved into it much better then I ever could.

    For the full review
    https://letterboxd.com/neilbahadur/film/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/4/

    Superman is the vision of the world as it could be.... so happy collaborator with the military industrial complex as teammate? They did half his job for him in MOS. Thought you had feelings about that sort of thing.

  • Mar 25, 2021
    Elric

    Superman is the vision of the world as it could be.... so happy collaborator with the military industrial complex as teammate? They did half his job for him in MOS. Thought you had feelings about that sort of thing.

    I think you’re replacing could with should in the writers mouth in terms of your reaction.

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    Fah1m
    https://twitter.com/DriiftyHayk/status/1374380462496387081

    That would be the biggest f*** you to every 'snyder' fan ever

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    lolololol

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash
    https://twitter.com/FandomWire/status/1374880381204324356

    lolololol

    Whelp

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    mjpplus

    Whelp

    Zack really just tryna make WB look like idiots and it's workin I love it lmao

  • Mar 25, 2021
    SegaDreamFlash
    https://twitter.com/FandomWire/status/1374880381204324356

    lolololol

    I’m fuming

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Zack really just tryna make WB look like idiots and it's workin I love it lmao

    I can’t believe they’d f*** that up

    Actually at this point, I can believe WB would f*** that up

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    where do people keep getting this idea that Snyder’s Superman is working with the US military. It’s almost like they completely missed the end of MoS when he tells the military to back off and allow him to do things his own way.

  • Mar 25, 2021
    SegaDreamFlash
    https://twitter.com/FandomWire/status/1374880381204324356

    lolololol

    Wtf

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    JL was great but I think BvS will always be a personal favorite for me

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash
    https://twitter.com/FandomWire/status/1374880381204324356

    lolololol

    being a dc fan & snyder fan is like crisis on infinite hurt

  • Mar 25, 2021

    Snyder a God at casting, he’s LITERALLY who I want as John Stewart

  • Mar 25, 2021
    Fah1m
    https://twitter.com/DriiftyHayk/status/1374380462496387081

    This a meme

  • Mar 25, 2021
    SegaDreamFlash
    https://twitter.com/FandomWire/status/1374880381204324356

    lolololol

    WB looking foolish out here

  • Mar 25, 2021
    Everest

    being a dc fan & snyder fan is like crisis on infinite hurt

    CRINE

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    Fulci Burnett

    where do people keep getting this idea that Snyder’s Superman is working with the US military. It’s almost like they completely missed the end of MoS when he tells the military to back off and allow him to do things his own way.

    I have to watch it again, but MoS is very pro-army from what I remember.

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    cyborg could have singlehandedly ended poverty in that scene but he was satisfied with only helping one situation

  • Mar 25, 2021
    LORD ALFREDO

    I have to watch it again, but MoS is very pro-army from what I remember.

    Yes military men are shown working with Superman to stop Zod but only after he saved their lives and even then he isn’t working for them & they go their separate ways after. The government & military are still unsure how to feel about him hence the surveillance and Superman wants to remain independent.

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    mjpplus

    I can’t believe they’d f*** that up

    Actually at this point, I can believe WB would f*** that up

    Between Tenet, HBO Max, and this, WB keep f***ing up

  • Mar 25, 2021
    AKFresh

    JL was great but I think BvS will always be a personal favorite for me

    I actually really hated that movie but I watched the Ultimate Edition the other day and it wasn't as bad.

    A murder-loving Batman still sucks and Eisenberg Lex Luthor will always be a horrible decision (especially because his lines are actually not bad for Lex talk), but the film itself is a lot more cohesive.

  • Mar 25, 2021
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    Lex Luther is Musk x Zuckerberg by way of Max Landis.