People s***ting on Bill are idiots, he was a victim too, he was even younger than Fred, a f***ing baby, not even a street nigga either just a petty thief on occasion. He did what he had to do, I never once felt like he was in the wrong and it was a perfect balance with the contrast of morality on display between him and Fred/TBP. In the end, he was still a kid so idgaf.
Seeing this tonight but a lot of feelings involved tho and someone important died because of it so I get the anger
COINTELPRO was ruthless and an entire evil that only wanted to destroy. I’m sure anyone who was taken advantage of as part of that came off that way as well to a lot of people
cause if i was Bill.. lord knows im tellin
I think the thing is that while telling is foul to begin with, you can't even chalk up what he did to just telling
He infiltrated, became a relatively high ranking and beloved member and then even after all that, after his actions caused the death/capture of Judy and White + the bombing of the office and he coulda just skipped town and hoped that by the time the feds found him, society/a judge would understand his plight (plausible if he coulda stayed low till like the 80s).
he still doubled back and poisoned Fred, along with all the information he was giving the whole time, doing blueprints and s*** of the houses and offices.
You can't even really describe it as telling, or snitching the nigga was a whole pro bono government agent going way deeper than just telling (and there was nothing really to tell on, anything illegal they did was right in the cops faces/if not full out self defense)
I think the thing is that while telling is foul to begin with, you can't even chalk up what he did to just telling
He infiltrated, became a relatively high ranking and beloved member and then even after all that, after his actions caused the death/capture of Judy and White + the bombing of the office and he coulda just skipped town and hoped that by the time the feds found him, society/a judge would understand his plight (plausible if he coulda stayed low till like the 80s).
he still doubled back and poisoned Fred, along with all the information he was giving the whole time, doing blueprints and s*** of the houses and offices.
You can't even really describe it as telling, or snitching the nigga was a whole pro bono government agent going way deeper than just telling (and there was nothing really to tell on, anything illegal they did was right in the cops faces/if not full out self defense)
Not gonna lie, in his interview from the real documentary, he seemed a lil slow to me, so idk if that played a part, but yeah you're entirely right
I just try to think how I'd react in that situation, 17, tortured by the FBI, know if you go to prison you are basically gonna die in there, forced to continue the job after almost getting killed by cops, I'm surprised he made it out alive cause I for sure thought the nigga was gonna be toast by the end. What he did was f***ed up but idk if I can antagonize him before I do the FBI and those white niggas
Nigga it's random Master P BET specials on his channel from 98 lmao that nigga is amazing
I interviewed bruh a few weeks ago. Nigga a walking black film archive
I just try to think how I'd react in that situation, 17, tortured by the FBI, know if you go to prison you are basically gonna die in there, forced to continue the job after almost getting killed by cops, I'm surprised he made it out alive cause I for sure thought the nigga was gonna be toast by the end. What he did was f***ed up but idk if I can antagonize him before I do the FBI and those white niggas
Most def. You're supposed to leave the movie being mad at the FBI, cointelpro first and foremost.
People s***ting on Bill are idiots, he was a victim too, he was even younger than Fred, a f***ing baby, not even a street nigga either just a petty thief on occasion. He did what he had to do, I never once felt like he was in the wrong and it was a perfect balance with the contrast of morality on display between him and Fred/TBP. In the end, he was still a kid so idgaf.
He didnt HAVE to do anything he coulda did his time
Fred Hampton Documentary (1990) | COINTELPRO Black Panthers
!https://youtu.be/PV-0FODvq_wlakeith and Daniel are the next big stars in Hollywood. its been so amazing to see their career come ups, makes me proud
i'll admit it became kinda different for me when I found out dude was 17 when all this took place
But still man
ahh f*** lol
17?
Then again Fred was only 21
It’s been such an underwhelming year for movies but so much of this is sticking with me long after finishing, great film
This and the final scenes with Delroy Lindo in 5 Bloods are huge standouts for me
People s***ting on Bill are idiots, he was a victim too, he was even younger than Fred, a f***ing baby, not even a street nigga either just a petty thief on occasion. He did what he had to do, I never once felt like he was in the wrong and it was a perfect balance with the contrast of morality on display between him and Fred/TBP. In the end, he was still a kid so idgaf.
F*** him he was a thief
And then a rat
Fred bought change !
Bill brought s***
F*** him motherfuck him
Wish they had more about the rainbow coalition that was really interesting to learn about this man really was a crazy revolutionary I gotta do my homework
The fact the Judas killed himself later to the guilt but always said he had no guilt on interviews is hella sad
I just try to think how I'd react in that situation, 17, tortured by the FBI, know if you go to prison you are basically gonna die in there, forced to continue the job after almost getting killed by cops, I'm surprised he made it out alive cause I for sure thought the nigga was gonna be toast by the end. What he did was f***ed up but idk if I can antagonize him before I do the FBI and those white niggas
they certainly manipulated Bill to an extent especially considering his age but at the same time he seemed to show a lot of sociopathic tendencies...like he legit believed he was a benefit to the cause while also being its downfall...you see it in that real life interview clip where he's trying to defend his bullshit as "well at least I did SOMETHING"...all those little moments where he talks big and then scoffs and laughs it off when he's away from the others...the way he acted in the fancy restaurant...at the same time it obviously ate away at him...either that or dude just wasn't well mentally bc he killed himself right after doing that interview...you can see the shame in his eyes even if his words are defending what he did