HaroldsChicken

9h

Streamers some but I would include rappers and athletes 100%

AvenueJones

9h

Niggas still tryna push the “Jay Z backdoor’d Kaep” narrative.. when the nigga had already got paid his settlement.

Midzy

9h

I thought he kneeled bc of racism and police brutality? Was it really bc he didn't want to take a pay cut/was a bad player?

Midzy

9h

I thought he kneeled bc of racism and police brutality? Was it really bc he didn't want to take a pay cut/was a bad player?

Aisosa

9h

You're being deliberately obtuse.

The only relevant fact in this conversation is that Kap started a social movement that grew larger than him and his stated goals, and the White billionaires called Jay Z to throw him a couple of dollars to undercut it, as he's won't to to do.

Valentine

9h

you clearly just yapping bullshit man cause you hate Jay-Z

COLIN KAEPERNICK OPTED OUT OF HIS 2017 CONTRACT

he was literally still going to get paid by the NFL even with the kneeling s*** in 2016 season AND was going to be the Broncos starting QB but refused the pay cut

THEN STILL was going to get signed by the Ravens until his girl (that he took from a teammate btw) crashed out his opportunities by talking down a man who was vouching for them (Ray Lewis)

THEN turned around and still decided “nah I’m not doing a workout that could get me a job”

man watch out, this Kaepernick s*** been dead

afterimage

9h

Yes?? “You” (colloquial you, not YOU) as an individual can’t seperate the artist mythos, kayfabe, and general limitations of hip hop as an art medium even when an artist is talking about them, you are fully losing yourself in the spectacle

Who cares if Hov fans think Rocawear is groundbreaking? Yeezy fans probably also said similar things about Yeezy at the peak of the brands fame with the adidas deal, obvious Kanye seems himself in that light- heck even Kendrick’s progression as an artist and how he views himself as a “revolutionary” black figure within hip hop have all been dissected and supported/critiqued all around. It doesn’t make any of them more true

It’s clear you don’t like Jay Z that’s entirely fine but pretending he’s doing anything interesting or unique by acting as a figurehead for the management of capitalist production/reproduction in certain black spaces is extremely, extremely shortsighted and it just makes your whole jay z hate boner more apparent

No one is even praising Jay itt, what are you talking about the large swathes of 60 year old blueprint fans we have to imagine defending him to get mad at?

Niggas be wanting to be faux woke but doing it in the most surface level and lazy way

Dr Lee PhD

9h

Parents dumbass, and the parents of parents, teachers, community members, etc.

Aisosa

9h

It's irrelevant that one of the biggest voices in Black American culture is so well known for selling his people out for a check?

Nigga the reverse Al Sharpton

Dr Lee PhD

8h

Also isn’t Kaep getting his settlement just as “capitalist” as they say Jay Z is

AvenueJones

9h

Niggas still tryna push the “Jay Z backdoor’d Kaep” narrative.. when the nigga had already got paid his settlement.

figarooooo

9h

No, he was washed but that had nothing to do with why he took a knee

Aisosa

8h

Looool

AvenueJones

8h

Kaep himself took a check bro lol and no one is mad at him for that but that was not a “movement” and became just as self serving. Multiple things can be true at once, these white oligarchs and execs do view Jay as a pawn and you could argue he’s positioned himself that way by trying to go corporate. But this is not a situation of where he kicked Kaep’s back in

Aisosa

8h

Name one other Black cultural figure is known for diminishing Black cultural movements for a dollar

Dr Lee PhD

8h

Yeah I’m sure someone who doesn’t positively affect his community on an everyday human to human basis would be upset at celebrities

figarooooo

8h

Getting a settlement from your employer discriminating against you is not capitalist

afterimage

8h

Kanye
Pharrell
Michael Jordan
Nicki Minaj
Beyoncé
Drake
Tiger Woods

literally any black celeb that’s been accepted any kind of brand endorsement/product placement

What are we doing here

Aisosa

9h

How about "Jay Z backdoors Black protests"?

figarooooo

9h

It’s true Kaep thought too highly of himself as a player, but nearly every professional athlete overrates themselves. 98% of why he didn’t get a deal was because he knelt.

Aisosa

9h

How about "Jay Z backdoors Black protests"?

HaroldsChicken

8h

I mean he was against occupy Wall Street too so wouldn’t limit it to black

AvenueJones

8h

Niggas was not protesting the NFL bro stop it. That was cap I know because I wasn’t even watching the NFL and I saw niggas who were loud about “supporting” Kaepernick online and then talking about the games on Monday. S*** there needs to be more smoke on some of the Players that didn’t support him and some that spoke out against him kneeling imo

Aisosa

8h

Again, Kap is not the issue here.