That's my point?

They're both frauds but you call one if you want to amplify discrimination and the other if you want to diminish it

real Capitalist type s***

Lool, it's actually not because most capitalists sell products not their own people.

How did I diminish it?

Think you’re just overstating the impact of cultural events and minority figures in high places as a vehicle for social change

nothing about making a multi-billion dollar conglomerate more “equitable” was ever truly going to benefit black Americans

It’s good for liberals (back then) and black folk who still buy into the friendly faces in high faces trope- similar to Obama but nothing more

dawg, how did Jay-Z cause Kaep to

• not want to take a pay cut to remain a starter

• not keep his wife from affecting his future when he was going to be traded to the Ravens when she went on Twitter calling the owner a slave master and Ray Lewis an Uncle Tom and murderer AFTER Ray vouched for them to acquire Kaep

• Kaep ghosted his own NFL scouting workout

dude had 2 teams wanting him AND a workout with scouts but it’s Jay-Z fault, got it lmfao

First off, maybe read the post again because I wasn't talking about you?

Second, so because Jay Z's influence as a driver of social change for Blavlck people is overstated (which is hilarious because you have the people who like him claiming he's able to change the types of clothes they wear and the things they drink), it's not utterly malignant?

That’s your issue, you’re stuck on pop culture when the real issue is locally who is influencing and raising these ppl, you’re more upset at Hovs popularity than you are any damage you believe he’s done

You're being deliberately obtuse.

The only relevant fact in this conversation is that Kap started a social movement that grew larger than him and his stated goals, and the White billionaires called Jay Z to throw him a couple of dollars to undercut it, as he's won't to to do.

Who's really influencing the Black youth then if not rappers and athletes?

I'm genuinely curious

Go bills

This nigga arguing with idiots talmbout they deliberately obtuse

Streamers some but I would include rappers and athletes 100%

Been known

Well technically it didn’t happen “overnight” The Who ain’t perform in 16 years.

It’s old news for sure but in people’s mind some good came from it

Niggas still tryna push the “Jay Z backdoor’d Kaep” narrative.. when the nigga had already got paid his settlement.

Yes?? “You” (colloquial you, not YOU) as an individual can’t seperate the artist mythos, kayfabe, and general limitations of hip hop as an art medium even when an artist is talking about them, you are fully losing yourself in the spectacle

Who cares if Hov fans think Rocawear is groundbreaking? Yeezy fans probably also said similar things about Yeezy at the peak of the brands fame with the adidas deal, obvious Kanye seems himself in that light- heck even Kendrick’s progression as an artist and how he views himself as a “revolutionary” black figure within hip hop have all been dissected and supported/critiqued all around. It doesn’t make any of them more true

It’s clear you don’t like Jay Z that’s entirely fine but pretending he’s doing anything interesting or unique by acting as a figurehead for the management of capitalist production/reproduction in certain black spaces is extremely, extremely shortsighted and it just makes your whole jay z hate boner more apparent

No one is even praising Jay itt, what are you talking about the large swathes of 60 year old blueprint fans we have to imagine defending him to get mad at?

Niggas be wanting to be faux woke but doing it in the most surface level and lazy way

There was outcry on social media.. that was about it. By the time the Super Bowl came around it was still SB parties all through the community. Niggas did not boycott the NFL.

Those were 15 years apart and hip hop became the most popular genre in America between those

Parents dumbass, and the parents of parents, teachers, community members, etc.

I thought he kneeled bc of racism and police brutality? Was it really bc he didn't want to take a pay cut/was a bad player?

It’s true Kaep thought too highly of himself as a player, but nearly every professional athlete overrates themselves. 98% of why he didn’t get a deal was because he knelt.