Don’t you see how your views on this are pathological? You’re cherry-picking based on the words and symbols at hand. Your views are not based on the reality of what those philosophies actually do in the real world.
I was trying to make a joke
, I should have been clearer . But most black nationalists today tend to be reactionary and racist NOI is a great example of this. The previous definition you were talking about was modeled best by the black panthers imo.
Black nationalist =/= black supremacists
Black separatist =/= black nationalist
Black separatist =/= black supremacists
White supremacists took that language from black nationalists to seem more appealing. Stealing words, iconography, and symbols doesn’t make two groups the same. Are the Hindus the same as Nazis? Are Socialists?
Not very long ago, white nationalists and black nationalists had cordial relationships, because they had the same ultimate ends in mind.

“Imma Israelite, don’t call me Black no mo” - YAH
“The African Americans, Hispanic and Native American Indians are the true Jews of Israel” - FEAR
Is this not the same ideology Jay is tweeting about ?
1. Claiming one selfs as a descendant of Israel
2. Claiming that only a certain people of Israelite
Not very long ago, white nationalists and black nationalists had cordial relationships, because they had the same ultimate ends in mind.

same thing happening today, privately.
I honestly wish these f***ing clowns named their organization something other than the Nation of Islam.
As always, non-Muslims posing as Muslims bringing a bad name to real Islam everywhere, lesser-informed people are gonna think we’re associated with these identity-crisis having lunatics.
Muhammad Ali AND Malcolm X (easily two of the most prominent ex-members of this cult) denounced it and embraced REAL Islam and performed their pilgrimages (God grant both of them heaven).
REAL Muslims who actually follow the teachings of the prophet always smell like rosey perfumed oil, candy & expensive fabrics. We wash ourselves 5 times a day & don’t consume alcohol & pork. The smelly f***s who most of you meet on the regular aren’t REAL Muslims lmao, as a foundation of our teaching is to stay CLEAN & PURE.
Huh ? These are literally the definition of those terms tho can easily search them up
And where in the black nationalism definition I posted did u see the idea of a race being superior than another. Nationalism doesnt always equal supremacy
The fact that they're definitions that show up on the internet doesn't mean that they're neutral or accurate. In the plainest possible terms, nationalism means that you think the group that you identify with is the best, and want to live in a separate area with only that group. When it's ethnic nationalism, that belief applies to certain racial group, but even with civic nationalism, it's still the exact same idea, but on cultural lines.
I was trying to make a joke
, I should have been clearer . But most black nationalists today tend to be reactionary and racist NOI is a great example of this. The previous definition you were talking about was modeled best by the black panthers imo.
Even if that’s true (I don’t think it is, I think it’s a loud minority of black nationalists) that doesn’t justify condemning all black political movements based on superficial similarities with Nazism.
Not very long ago, white nationalists and black nationalists had cordial relationships, because they had the same ultimate ends in mind.

If you’re more interested in slandering black parties than a world where black people aren’t forced to make unfair deals with white people in their daily lives, then I think it’s safe to say there’s no point in continuing this discussion.
This the dude that took years on his album only to have jay z on half of it
Needed every single molecule of jay to make him relevant
The fact that they're definitions that show up on the internet doesn't mean that they're neutral or accurate. In the plainest possible terms, nationalism means that you think the group that you identify with is the best, and want to live in a separate area with only that group. When it's ethnic nationalism, that belief applies to certain racial group, but even with civic nationalism, it's still the exact same idea, but on cultural lines.
This is incorrect Nationalism =/= separatism =/= supremacy
You're conflating all the terms into one. I can be a black nationalist without being a black separatist or black supremacist. Yes one can be all three and yes black separatism and black supremacy are derived from the black nationalism but it's not the same thing
Not very long ago, white nationalists and black nationalists had cordial relationships, because they had the same ultimate ends in mind.

Btw your beloved white governments made plenty of peace with the Nazis until Russia snapped them out of it
Also the original point, no one has explain yet how this is anti semitic
Right? This thread’s been nothing but slander against black parties
Also the original point, no one has explain yet how this is anti semitic
If you read carefully throughout the thread it's already been addressed and discussed
People already moved on