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Do you even know what a nationalist is?
Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic
When he did that I started laughing tbh I was like "Oop now y'all got this nigga started"
i was just anticipating the anti semitism and farrakhan nazi talking points when he did that and he didn’t disappoint on that front
Do you even know what a nationalist is?
Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic
White nationalism is different. It’s just a euphemism white supremacists use to appeal to moderates. It doesn’t mean what it claims to mean.
Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee
For reference
Ain’t this the Old testament
White nationalism is different. It’s just a euphemism white supremacists use to appeal to moderates. It doesn’t mean what it claims to mean.
The nationalist part is yes but it still is the same line of thinking. You’re engaging in racism by trying to combat it. It’s the same logic and it’s not good. Especially the anti-Semitism.
Do you even know what a nationalist is?
Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic
Here's the definition of black nationalism
"(especially in the US) advocacy of or support for unity and political self-determination for black people, especially in the form of a separate black nation."
Here's the definition of white nationalism
"one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"
Are these two the same ??
The nationalist part is yes but it still is the same line of thinking. You’re engaging in racism by trying to combat it. It’s the same logic and it’s not good. Especially the anti-Semitism.
It’s not though. See the other dude’s post above me
Blacks aren’t going to get ahead using white owned banks and white owned trading ports
So segregating and telling shire people they aren’t allowed to live somewhere is the solution? Pretty f***ing trash idea. Separate the oppression piece and break down what you’re actually suggesting. It doesn’t make it right to hold those beliefs even if black people have been extremely oppressed. I’m saying this as a half black person myself
Here's the definition of black nationalism
"(especially in the US) advocacy of or support for unity and political self-determination for black people, especially in the form of a separate black nation."
Here's the definition of white nationalism
"one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"
Are these two the same ??
But they’re literally advocating for the same things despite their different ideologies behind it. It’s still racist to create an ethnostate where only black people can govern it. Sorry dude you’re not gonna change my f***ing mind
So segregating and telling shire people they aren’t allowed to live somewhere is the solution? Pretty f***ing trash idea. Separate the oppression piece and break down what you’re actually suggesting. It doesn’t make it right to hold those beliefs even if black people have been extremely oppressed. I’m saying this as a half black person myself
The solution is making black owned banks and black owned trade agreements, which in my opinion is impossible under the current government. So yeah, I think a separate black government is necessary to end the dispossession black communities face on a daily basis.
Not in itself, I just don’t see any other options.
But they’re literally advocating for the same things despite their different ideologies behind it. It’s still racist to create an ethnostate where only black people can govern it. Sorry dude you’re not gonna change my f***ing mind
But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho
Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy
But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho
Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy
You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".
You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".
White supremacists took that language from black nationalists to seem more appealing. Stealing words, iconography, and symbols doesn’t make two groups the same. Are the Hindus the same as Nazis? Are Socialists?
You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".
Huh ? These are literally the definition of those terms tho can easily search them up
And where in the black nationalism definition I posted did u see the idea of a race being superior than another. Nationalism doesnt always equal supremacy
But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho
Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy
Rolling back to segregation,ultra conservatism and racial caste systems is basically a nuclear "every race for themselves" scenario ,especially in america. Having a black ethnostate or ethnostates in general dooms us to conflict in the future especially on a planet that is being depleted of its resources. Also would you really expect a black ethno-state to get the same treatment and privileges in the united states as others? Would we get the same amount of investments and favoritism from the federal government that the other states do? Intersectionality and breaking down racial barriers is the only way to have real peace because people will be able to identify with eachother than see eachother as the "other". My biggest problem with black nationalists is that they dont deconstruct the racial ideology that oppresses us in the U.S they empower it.
White supremacists took that language from black nationalists to seem more appealing. Stealing words, iconography, and symbols doesn’t make two groups the same. Are the Hindus the same as Nazis? Are Socialists?
“Imma Israelite, don’t call me Black no mo” - YAH
“The African Americans, Hispanic and Native American Indians are the true Jews of Israel” - FEAR
Is this not the same ideology Jay is tweeting about ?
"See, in a perfect world, I'll choose faith over riches
I'll choose work over b****es, I'll make schools out of prison
I'll take all the religions and put 'em all in one service
Just to tell 'em we ain't s***, but He's been perfect, world"
been known his album was propaganda to recruit people into Islam
https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism
Don’t you see how your views on this are pathological? You’re cherry-picking based on the words and symbols at hand. Your views are not based on the reality of what those philosophies actually do in the real world.
Rolling back to segregation,ultra conservatism and racial caste systems is basically a nuclear "every race for themselves" scenario ,especially in america. Having a black ethnostate or ethnostates in general dooms us to conflict in the future especially on a planet that is being depleted of its resources. Also would you really expect a black ethno-state to get the same treatment and privileges in the united states as others? Would we get the same amount of investments and favoritism from the federal government that the other states do? Intersectionality and breaking down racial barriers is the only way to have real peace because people will be able to identify with eachother than see eachother as the "other". My biggest problem with black nationalists is that they dont deconstruct the racial ideology that oppresses us in the U.S they empower it.
I get what ur tryna say but black nationalism doesn't inherently mean black separatism
So me defending black nationalism isnt the same as me defending the idea of separating into a black ethno state. It's me defending the idea of black empowerment and black solidarity