but it did perform well man..

anything under a billion is considered a flop

this the mindset of an executive LMAO

lol literally why they brought joss onto JL because bvs didnt make a billi

huh

the story in the Superman 2025 has faults especially for trying to sell to a mass audience.

Me personally based on the ads I thought the war story would be a bit more than an quick after thought and we would learn about the characters from a war torn area

changing superman parents to be evil really changes the character quite a bit just for a "WHAT A TWIST " moment. Engineer barely a character. Metamorpho would have been a great villiain in the city. giant alien waste of budget vs showing him save many people in a day and show the falafel guy momen rather than falafel guy say "you saved them once and i gave you falafel remember audience who doesnt see this movment before I get executed for emotional manipulation"

even the monologue at the end that worked for some and people spent the last week clowning. Why because telling a villain who killed someone "I put my shoes on every day and find a way" vs showing that to the audience can come across AS CORNY

ending every emotional moment even that with "OH KRYPTO A BAD DOG LMFAO" . His girlfriend dealing with abuse "OH SHE SECRETLY BEEN GIVING ME HIS SECRET PLANS SHE ISNT JUST H**** FOR JIMMY"

ending the movie with superman alcoholic cousin calling him a b****

Do you truly think this is a movie people want to bring their kids to ? Man of steel had superman killing zod and death of dad in a tornado but overall you could bring a child or teenager to the movie.

Superman 2025 was "hopecore" in a way but unnecessarily edgelord in so many different ways.

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Brother supermans immigrant parents being murderers and being reformed by his white family is already very right wing

A good comparison for what we mean when we say that Superman 2025 had an uphill battle because of the sour taste left by the DCEU is looking at another popular DC character reboot film: Batman Begins.

Batman & Robin released in 1997 and utterly tanked the character's reputation. Grossing only $238M against a $160M budget, holding an average critic score of 3.8/10, and winning numerous Razzies, it went on to be seen as one of the worst films ever made.

It took 6 years before they finally released their reboot of the character: Nolan's Batman Begins. If it came out today, Twitter and other forums online would probably call it a flop, because it only grossed $371M against a $150M budget. However, the movie's strong reception and good word-of-mouth led its famous sequel to become extremely anticipated, and as a result The Dark Knight became the first superhero film to ever gross $1 billion dollars at the box office.

This is why it should have never been expected that Superman (2025) would make anywhere near that billion dollar mark, because the mark of success for this film was shaking off the stench of the failed universe that preceded it and getting people excited for more stories in the world it was creating

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Gonna be interesting to see what man of tomorrow looks like, will probably answer a lot of questions about where he was intending to go…assuming it doesn’t get butchered to fit the new plans anyway

james gunn, the famous twitterrer?

We know this yea but the pro israel mfs perceive it as the wokest movie OAT

But as a superman film with its marketing and budget on this specific one no thats not comparable to man of steel which did product placement which saved a lot of its budget lol . It did like 150 million in product placement.

People saying man of steel "soured the audience from 11 years before " when in many ways man of steel did better. Critically it did not .

#RestoreTheBrianSingerVerse

The last 5 DCEU films before Superman:

• Black Adam
• Shazam! Fury of the Gods
• The Flash
• Blue Beetle
• Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom

Yeah, Superman 2025 definitely wasn't in a rough spot trying to establish a new DC cinematic universe to audiences who clearly loved where the last one ended

I dont focus solely on their view and I dont even think they view it that way. Becuase Gunn was afraid to say that. The war conflict in the movie was undercooked and rather than have it be an actual world conflict they had to force Lex Luthor into it which again is the same plotting as bvs.

peter safran produced all these joints fam
and blue beetle in the next movie coming out hahaha

• His name is Gunn

• Gets fired

crazy cause Superman aint even about Israel, they just felt offended for no reason

Brother my grandma, kids , sister who is 40 arent like " what were the 5 dc movies before this"

its simply "superman movie lets go"

My uncle has missed multiple spider man movies and will say "there is a new spider man movie I am going to go see it"

the amount of the audience that with a gun pointed to their head could tell you the last 5 dc movies before superman 2025 is very low.

The idea that you think people are like "wow great review of superman 2025 but I am not going to see in theaters because the last 5 movies were kind of mixed" is low.

Man of Steel did so well that the Batman vs. Superman film that succeeded it ended up getting outperformed by a Captain America movie

i mean its clearly supposed to be an a***ogue for israel
gunn jus a p**** and wouldnt come out and say it

Superman is not that popular of a character in live-action film in the 21st Century. This is a fact that some of y'all are still struggling to accept

Captain america is much more marketable than an edgelord bvs

I have said superman edgelord moments lost it some of its family audience and lilo and stich who had dogshit reviews cleared a billion

why? even with its changes to the story ITS A FAMILY ACCESSIBLE MOVIE

Weak excuse, The Dark Knight and Rises both made a billion dollars and those movies aren't family friendly whatsoever