Helps that the music was great. Kind of the whole point of making music imo.

There were stans of the previous generations rappers so what’s the difference

ehh.. depends on how you look at it.

I studied music in the perfomering arts for most of my life. When an artist get to the caliber of the two.. like for me discipline vocal pedagogy. When you get two elite vocalists that have impeccable technique and show monstrous skill.. you start looking at their level of musicality as artists. Yes singer B.. has the speed and agility to execute these incredible riffs/runs,.. but know where WHERE to place them, why you choose to resolve the chord in this way.. incorporating different dynamics to add to the story of the song.. this is muscianship and separate a vocal artist from a pedagogue.. I see the same thing with a gifted rapper and an elite MC/lyricist.

Another example of someone with a peculiar sense of interpretive wit that makes their art resonate is Frank Ocean (imo). At this point, Ken and Cole are splitting hair in terms of raw artillery in their arsenal. When I change lens and start a***yzing the power of the art itself. Kenny edges and that's mostly due to his musicianship.

Lmfao dont try to frame my argument to YOUR interpretation.

I understand his “views changed” spoiler alert he was just a fraud with no real political conscious tryna get a bag

The way he went about expressing changing his views was b**** made Tupac would NEVER say some s*** like that. How full of yourself do you gotta be to think people saw you as a messiah so you have to say “oh im not your savior “ again he coulda just shut up he did it to himself.

And youre weird for defending that stance like thats a respectable one. Bro just outwardly says “don’t expect me to speak on no s*** politically” and thats cool in the 20s? Okay

Cole trying to reconnect with the people like always

Fayettenam, you my heart, but at the same time
If I'm being honest, I can feel that flame dying

So I'm ridin' through the city streets reachin' for a memory to hang on
Goin' backwards like a penalty to see a younger me, but that day's gone
Wild times looking up at cloud nine, how high can Jermaine climb?
Remember when they ain't respond when you holla?
Funny how a few dollars can change minds

Wasnt too big on the music on mmbs either

They never acted like this

Nigga i don't even expect moral consistency from YOU

G Unit era and Eminem Stans for the longest

the issue is with all that musicality, his music post damn doesn't have a lot of replayable value so i doubt its worth much. once he went the "i'm a hypocrite so don't expect much from me" route with his music, there's not much to enjoy compared to a drake. cole still has the message and relatability factor so there's always something there

It's the best album that came out that year

Not even close its Pusha

this is him saying he’s disconnected, he flexed 2 songs prior he got standards and he’s boujee now

That was a cool little tape too yeah

Luv 4 rent for me

he's honest and real as usual

he said the entire concept of the album changed in 18 months alla Disc 39 hes faking humble and that’s okay lol

Extremely valid. I probably played Ramona Park Broke My Heart the most that year though tbh with Smino a close second.

okay?

which circles back to the original topic that he ain’t really much better than Dot at misleading lol

wheres the connection

lonely at the top he’s literally saying the same s*** Dot said on Mirror. that was the album for 7 years until he pivoted last minute

how's cole trying to reconnect with his origin and rapping about it him misleading the fans. you're twisting yourself into a pretzel

Nelly could hop on Life Sentence