Feb 12
CRACKASTEPPAVEGANThis Cam'ron situation a whole mess
Yeah idk what’s going on with that but he need to pay Killa
Feb 12·1 replyCheck discord bro @Slingshot
Feb 12
Laxos2050That's Cole beat man, u let Laxos down
nigga how was i supposed to know that?
insertcoolnamehere ✊🏿Feb 12CRACKASTEPPAVEGANThis Cam'ron situation a whole mess
That + the picture this tank rapper is talking show cole prolly be lying a lot to niggas
Feb 12·3 replies
Blue Manyou're comparing kendrick using slavery for why he should cheat on his wife with white women to cole telling real stories of his home town. stop it
At least Kendrick can execute beyond surface level concepts. "Real stories of his hometown" with no character depth, rehashing multiple decade old concepts, and taking creative license Cole isn't built for without coming off as corny.
If your only gripe with MM is Kendrick saying he f***ed a white b**** out of retaliation, that's your perogative. I think it's comedicly tongue-in-cheek while being layered. He clearly acknowledges the problem and I think he shows he understands the absurdity of framing his own infedility as some kind of historic revolutionary act. No one is taking him saying "I might be racist" at face value, but taking the acenstor bar at face value is where the line is drawn? That's just silly interpretation.
Feb 12Great album after sitting on it
- Feb 12
The singing on the let out, chefs kiss
- Feb 12·1 replyLouisAkbar
At least Kendrick can execute beyond surface level concepts. "Real stories of his hometown" with no character depth, rehashing multiple decade old concepts, and taking creative license Cole isn't built for without coming off as corny.
If your only gripe with MM is Kendrick saying he f***ed a white b**** out of retaliation, that's your perogative. I think it's comedicly tongue-in-cheek while being layered. He clearly acknowledges the problem and I think he shows he understands the absurdity of framing his own infedility as some kind of historic revolutionary act. No one is taking him saying "I might be racist" at face value, but taking the acenstor bar at face value is where the line is drawn? That's just silly interpretation.
This was me 3 days ago
Put Kendrick down for a second turn tour mental chatter off and just sit with it
- Feb 12·3 repliesLouisAkbar
At least Kendrick can execute beyond surface level concepts. "Real stories of his hometown" with no character depth, rehashing multiple decade old concepts, and taking creative license Cole isn't built for without coming off as corny.
If your only gripe with MM is Kendrick saying he f***ed a white b**** out of retaliation, that's your perogative. I think it's comedicly tongue-in-cheek while being layered. He clearly acknowledges the problem and I think he shows he understands the absurdity of framing his own infedility as some kind of historic revolutionary act. No one is taking him saying "I might be racist" at face value, but taking the acenstor bar at face value is where the line is drawn? That's just silly interpretation.
i'll always appreciate cole's realness and authenticity over hypocritical actions covered up with fake "layers". there's nothing complex about wanting to f*** white women lmao
Feb 12CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN"Going from who the tf Iz you into 4 slower paced tracks kinda feels jarring"
It's a sequencing thing whereby you make sure the tempo ebbs and flows, following up something bombastic with something more stripped back. The song following who tf iz u isn't that great to make it effective tho
That I agree with. I always think about NWTS going from Worst Behaviour to From Time
I think you might be right tho maybe because the preceding track is weak and it sounds too much like the previous songs it's not effective
- Feb 12·1 replyryuH
This was me 3 days ago
Put Kendrick down for a second turn tour mental chatter off and just sit with it
I've listened to it 7 times brother. I will say I was harsher on it initially and it did grow on me, but it's still just a good album. 6 to maybe a 7/10 for me. Cole is a fantastic rapper and his music is good enough sonically, but that's basically where he always started and ended for me. This album failed to captivate me in any meaningful way, and that's fine. It's still a good album.
- Feb 12·1 reply
yes. he used slavery as an excuse for why its okay. and he's not discussing anything. "discussion" implies a two or more way conversation
- Feb 12
Oblivion XMaybe these lines on GOMD were a reference to this
They tryna say I can't come back
Ayy, let me tell you 'bout it
Man, f*** them niggas, I come backWould make sense seeing how the dude dissed Cole just a year before that came out
- Feb 12LouisAkbar
At least Kendrick can execute beyond surface level concepts. "Real stories of his hometown" with no character depth, rehashing multiple decade old concepts, and taking creative license Cole isn't built for without coming off as corny.
If your only gripe with MM is Kendrick saying he f***ed a white b**** out of retaliation, that's your perogative. I think it's comedicly tongue-in-cheek while being layered. He clearly acknowledges the problem and I think he shows he understands the absurdity of framing his own infedility as some kind of historic revolutionary act. No one is taking him saying "I might be racist" at face value, but taking the acenstor bar at face value is where the line is drawn? That's just silly interpretation.
Cole is better technically than Kendrick,has better punchlines and a better voice . Kendrick is a better songwriter tho
- Feb 12LouisAkbar
I've listened to it 7 times brother. I will say I was harsher on it initially and it did grow on me, but it's still just a good album. 6 to maybe a 7/10 for me. Cole is a fantastic rapper and his music is good enough sonically, but that's basically where he always started and ended for me. This album failed to captivate me in any meaningful way, and that's fine. It's still a good album.
Aye man that’s fair nothing more anyone can ask of you
I do think if you continue to listen to it you stick with that 7/10 over that 6/10
Issa near 9/10 for me. If it ain’t resonate it ain’t resonate but it definitely did for me I’m like the exact nigga from the exact kinda place he represents and everything he’s doing here creatively works perfectly fine for me
And that’s not to Say it’s certain things Dot or Drake for that matter do better, I’m a fan of all 3 and have enough bandwidth for all of their styles
- Feb 12·1 reply
Man the combination of this and blizzard might be the best 28 track offering ever
- Feb 12·1 replyBlue Man
yes. he used slavery as an excuse for why its okay. and he's not discussing anything. "discussion" implies a two or more way conversation
That's a very literal interptation of discussion, but even then internal discussion/ interpersonal communication exists. You wouldn't argue that Cole isn't dicussing Fayetteville in his work even though he's only talking to himself. They both clearly openly attempt to rationalize things throughout their music. I think a big problem I have with Cole is his outcomes are often over the top didactic, while Kendrick leaves more room for ambiguity or fault. I will concede there's probably value in both, but one's just not my flavor. It doesn't engage me and often feels preachy and inauthentic.
- Feb 12
Please, nigga, kick one of the infinite raps
- Feb 12·1 replyryuH
Man the combination of this and blizzard might be the best 28 track offering ever
It’s a Boy Soon
John Mauve 🍺Feb 12·1 replyBlue Mani'll always appreciate cole's realness and authenticity over hypocritical actions covered up with fake "layers". there's nothing complex about wanting to f*** white women lmao
Nothing is complex when you break something down to its literal meaning though
- Feb 12PutYouOnGame25
It’s a Boy Soon
- Feb 12·1 replyLouisAkbar
That's a very literal interptation of discussion, but even then internal discussion/ interpersonal communication exists. You wouldn't argue that Cole isn't dicussing Fayetteville in his work even though he's only talking to himself. They both clearly openly attempt to rationalize things throughout their music. I think a big problem I have with Cole is his outcomes are often over the top didactic, while Kendrick leaves more room for ambiguity or fault. I will concede there's probably value in both, but one's just not my flavor. It doesn't engage me and often feels preachy and inauthentic.
yes, cole usually choses the route of standing for something while being very direct on what his morals are. very different from kendrick who always seems to want to have his cake and eat it too. its not that hard to be wishy washy with your morals while still getting brownie poins for being a concious rapper. that's why cole will always be more real to me.
and the point about the "discussion" is that he thinks him just telling us that he's a hypocrite means he gets to absolve himself of any expectation of consistency. as the listener, that's a very horrible reasoning and its actually hilarious he though he could get away with it. mr morale as a whole has aged horribly because without accepting the message it tries to feed, there's not a lot of positive to take away
Feb 12·1 reply
Leftside@Silas I'm coming around on The Let Out but that hook unforgivable
it somehow managed to climb my top 5
Cole was channeling Bone Thugs-N-Harmony with those verses