onedeep

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heartbreaking worst person etc

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It's literally false equivalence

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you might be dumb if you're actually agreeing with MTG there. supporting a proxy war, especially supporting funding Ukraine with weapons to defend themselves from Russia is different than the US themselves bombing Iran

Unity

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Marjorie Taylor Greene and her supporters are definitely the type of people to think a congressperson voting to fund a proxy war and the president directly ordering the bombing of another country without congressional approval are exactly the same thing

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not to mention AOC's broader point is about how it's unconstitutional, Trump did this on a whim because he didn't want to wait to be denied by his fellow congressmen

Palestinian Oozi

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Time will tell, but I think there’s a possibility that this is measured theatrics by Trump. This is not to defend him. It’s not that he is this sane non-violent approach guy…but an egomaniac.

You look at the timeline of everything, starting with Trump’s Middle East tour which skipped over israel (not because he’s anti israeli but is trying to keep normalization alive and is also ego driven because he doesn’t want to be perceived as being Israel’s b****), active negotiations with Iran (I think Trump is aware they’re not close to a nuclear weapon and hence in his mind it’s an easy win to broker an agreement with them that are lower stakes than what he would outwardly proclaim), and Israel’s sudden escalation to throw a monkey wrench in it…bc they’ve been begging for this moment for decades now. I gotta say and this is not in defense of Trump, Bibi and the $100 mill he took from Adelson are raping him and making him look weak to his MAGA base. And that’s all that matters to this guy. That’s why he said negotiations are still open after this very “red line” bombing based on what he’s projecting it as. That’s very telling to me.

WASHINGTON

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I hear you.

The optimistic part of me hopes too that this is for narrative resolution and media consumption. The US actually knows there are no nuclear assets in Iran so the real objective can only be a power show and appeasement of its ally.

There is a scenario in which the US could've decided, under domestic pressure, to not get involved at all (was never on the cards), signaling Israel to clean its own mess. The risk there for Iran is that even though a protracted war favors it, it pushes Israel to take a desperate measure including possibly a nuclear strike.

Iran is really in a tough predicament and it has managed everything so well, continuing to be strong and fighting to preserve its future. However, it will have to respond with attacks to a US base in the region. God knows the scale to which US will take it after that.

But foolish/optimistic part of me hopes that these scenarios will have been discussed at the negotiation table allowing each party to deescalate fingers crossed.

Uncle Jack

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https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/557982759235239936

Unity

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Wish dems would stop playing the "impeach Trump" card like it actually has a chance of ever happening and does anything other than give republicans more ammo

La Flame

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When on mobile, I cant access this thread?

Anyone know why

I dont see it in the list of the section

I have the OP blocked or something?

Uncle Jack

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https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/557982759235239936

young majid

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Most likely you have zeus123 blocked

Palestinian Oozi

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The other side of the coin is this is a slow pivot that was always going to land here. China brokering an Iran x Saudi deal a couple of years ago was a major shake up in US/israeli hegemony over the region. They were much happier with the riff between the two and having Iran isolated and fully susceptible to US pressure while the gulf states continuously warmed to the idea of israeli normalization.

WASHINGTON

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100%. In that sense this was inevitable. Iran being an obstacle for US to overcome before taking on global south multipolarity and taking on China/Russia directly or indirectly.

So this is essentially US reasserting itself in the region and world and it would perhaps be no different if Kamala was president.

crinewinedining

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this is done so israel has no enemies and would place them as the only superpower in the middle east

everything else, “resources” comes second

crinewinedining

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snowboy muted again?

Unity

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Like yeah it would be really nice to see Trump held accountable for all the wickedly evil and wildly illegal stuff he's done while in office this term (only 6 months in btw) but it's very clear that that isn't going to happen now or ever. Admit it, take some time and sit with it, and move on. Beating that dead horse helps absolutely no one