HBDUSA

6y

I see what y'all are sayin now. Personally I'd say I would've 100% agreed with you through the end of 2018.
I guess my main point is the "old kanye" is different depending on who's using the term. You can find someone who's been a diehard stan through 2018, but didn't like the gospel album in JIK. Born again Ye is the new kanye. That's similar to the people that were fans through the initial trilogy and thought the new kanye was the autotuned 808s kanye, or the industrial yeezus kanye. Those are all evolutions of artistry, and i don't like the old/new term when it comes to that but understand why people use the term.

I see what y'all are saying about the romaticized idea of who Ye was, but I don't think of that first when I think of "old kanye", because I've been a fan since Through The Wire and have always followed him and heard the hate. So in this specific "old kanye" usage, you're right.

But for me, the new Kanye is when he started supporting Trump. Not even right away. For a while I thought he was doing the "love everyone/positivity" angle, or the "well it's what we have we have to work with him if we want change," angle, but now honestly it just feels like he wants to be contrarian. For example, with this abortion thing he's pro choice but thinks people shouldn't have abortions. He wants people to have the choice but we should support mothers financially so there are less aboritions. This is a good take, but it's not what Trump or the conservative would ever support. They don't even support maternity leave, only 4 states have it mandatory in the US. And they're not pro choice at all. Often the things he say still sounds like the same Ye, but other times there's no real logic in what he claims to support. I could always make sense of his rants or what he was trying to say before, can't do it with this.

yesac

6y

it has to be ground breaking, breath taking, hit making, booty shaking, massalamualaikum, Jamaican, Haitian

rwina sawayama

6y

what is massalamualaikum

yesac

6y

assalamualaikum with an extra m at the start

HBDUSA

6y

I see what y'all are sayin now. Personally I'd say I would've 100% agreed with you through the end of 2018.
I guess my main point is the "old kanye" is different depending on who's using the term. You can find someone who's been a diehard stan through 2018, but didn't like the gospel album in JIK. Born again Ye is the new kanye. That's similar to the people that were fans through the initial trilogy and thought the new kanye was the autotuned 808s kanye, or the industrial yeezus kanye. Those are all evolutions of artistry, and i don't like the old/new term when it comes to that but understand why people use the term.

I see what y'all are saying about the romaticized idea of who Ye was, but I don't think of that first when I think of "old kanye", because I've been a fan since Through The Wire and have always followed him and heard the hate. So in this specific "old kanye" usage, you're right.

But for me, the new Kanye is when he started supporting Trump. Not even right away. For a while I thought he was doing the "love everyone/positivity" angle, or the "well it's what we have we have to work with him if we want change," angle, but now honestly it just feels like he wants to be contrarian. For example, with this abortion thing he's pro choice but thinks people shouldn't have abortions. He wants people to have the choice but we should support mothers financially so there are less aboritions. This is a good take, but it's not what Trump or the conservative would ever support. They don't even support maternity leave, only 4 states have it mandatory in the US. And they're not pro choice at all. Often the things he say still sounds like the same Ye, but other times there's no real logic in what he claims to support. I could always make sense of his rants or what he was trying to say before, can't do it with this.

rwina sawayama

6y

ppl that say they miss the old kanye just wanna feel special

Knilz

6y

That's my goat

HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

6y

I always thought "old Kanye" just meant his old style of music pre Yeezus, and not necessarily his personality

But admittedly I am a post Yeezus fan so I don't really know

YANDHI

6y

its been a myth. every "new" kanye becomes the old in a few years its a continuous cycle

there's eras of Kanye now that people say they miss knowing damn well they was saying "i miss the old Kanye" in that same era too

He's evolved like a human does. It's just evaluated at a microscopic level because he's Kanye West and there's much higher stakes/moves

YANDHI

6y

i remember the term being used in WTT and CS era

People just can't appreciate the moment so they say they miss the old completely not knowing that they'll one day miss the days they were also hating

used to originally mean Dropout era but the goal posts get shifted up now. Even then tho there's interviews from Grad era where Kanye is talking about people who say they miss the old CD and LR Ye

VVV

6y

i been seeing people saying they miss Pablo era Ye, like motherfcukers HATED him back then lmao

soccerfanj

6y

His fashion is so fire bruh I honestly love more than the music nowadays

HBDUSA

6y

I see what y'all are sayin now. Personally I'd say I would've 100% agreed with you through the end of 2018.
I guess my main point is the "old kanye" is different depending on who's using the term. You can find someone who's been a diehard stan through 2018, but didn't like the gospel album in JIK. Born again Ye is the new kanye. That's similar to the people that were fans through the initial trilogy and thought the new kanye was the autotuned 808s kanye, or the industrial yeezus kanye. Those are all evolutions of artistry, and i don't like the old/new term when it comes to that but understand why people use the term.

I see what y'all are saying about the romaticized idea of who Ye was, but I don't think of that first when I think of "old kanye", because I've been a fan since Through The Wire and have always followed him and heard the hate. So in this specific "old kanye" usage, you're right.

But for me, the new Kanye is when he started supporting Trump. Not even right away. For a while I thought he was doing the "love everyone/positivity" angle, or the "well it's what we have we have to work with him if we want change," angle, but now honestly it just feels like he wants to be contrarian. For example, with this abortion thing he's pro choice but thinks people shouldn't have abortions. He wants people to have the choice but we should support mothers financially so there are less aboritions. This is a good take, but it's not what Trump or the conservative would ever support. They don't even support maternity leave, only 4 states have it mandatory in the US. And they're not pro choice at all. Often the things he say still sounds like the same Ye, but other times there's no real logic in what he claims to support. I could always make sense of his rants or what he was trying to say before, can't do it with this.

Haram

6y

In 2003

Mans is just as arrogant, hard to follow, assertive about his creative abilities and imposing his feelings on random things like how Mother’s Day should be treated

Only difference I see is there’s less bass in his voice and he’s a little more silly. I’m guessing trying to break into these new industries and the pressure has hardened him up a bit...

But I really don’t understand what ppl think is so different about his thinking anymore lol

rwina sawayama

6y

ppl that say they miss the old kanye just wanna feel special