Imagining Joeyy even remotely involved in or caring about politics is cracking me up

Hanging around nazis bc youre too much of a fat regard to care is fine actually

Looking at the account of this Trevv guy and its so weird

Wtf happened to men

We need to wrap this internet s*** up forever

he don't got internet

I get your point but dude is deadass a high school drop out who sips lean all day. If you’ve ever met those types in real life they’re not exactly principled political a***ysts

If you don’t feel comfortable listening to somebody for whatever reason that’s cool but I think forcing people to moralize every facet of every artist they listen to is kind of silly

seeing a guy like that wear margiela is enough to make me burn my oldass margiela retrofits and never be caught dead in it ever again

she literally had to go out of her way to either get that printed on a shirt herself or find some small ass 4chan brand. that's crazy

100% i wonder who jane remover's uncle is bc no way they had an organic rise. getting reviewed and interviewed by pitchfork and other major outlets that fast and s***

ngl the instagram post is restricted so i cant see it and i dont feel like reading from a blog site that looks like 4chan so... i guess ill be listening to 2hollis

not trying to be controversial, but it's basically impossible w/o knowing their dead name

you repeatedly positioning anything opposing siding with white supremacy or racism as requiring complicated thought seems really disingenuous because on its face its dumb gross and violent. doesn't take three brain cells to put it together.

no ones forcing anyone to moralize every facet because its kinda upfront and unavoidable, if you hang around nazis and white supremacists people are going to find that to be a glaring problem and thing you are weird for it at the least

i mean that's not really hard to do considering it was their old artist name

i don't know enough about them, is that like public info?

dltzk so zeke but idk the last name. it's not on their wiki either

im sure something will eventually come out, i found some articles talking about their family and in all of them they leave out what they actually do for work lol

im pretty sure its in the credits of some older songs you could probably find it with a google search

Damn that's quite the leap. Don't think I ever said anything that could even be misconstrued as me suggesting that. To be crystal clear: Sam Hyde is a loser and his beliefs are abhorrent. That being said, I personally don't have an issue with listening to an artist that's associated with him given everything I know about their association. If other people do, I genuinely get it though. I just think it's a fruitless endeavor to moral police the media you consume so stringently.

I like your avy btw, reminds me of the the album cover for Seam's "The Problem with Me".

i think what im getting at is its not stringent to see white supremacy and say nah f*** that cus its like seeing a spill and not walking into it. its kinda just a normal assessment. like in some other instance saying something about listening to a musician whose close friends with someone who does blackface wouldn't be like moral policing to some because its instantly identifiable to many as not ok and most people be like we don't f*** with that. If i knew someone like that id say the same lol. I also wonder tbh sometimes if the consumer is presumed to be white because otherwise you're kinda just listening to someone who prob hates you and thinks ur subhuman which is...something. Anyway its a thursday

We disagree that its fruitless but im not gonna try to convince you and wasn't. teasing it out

@Phlegm My fault boss I see what you're saying with the "repeatedly positioning" comment, I was reading it wrong

Yeah I agree that opposing white supremacy is a black and white issue, and I'm not trying to suggest otherwise. Also wanna say that I think it's lame that Joeyy is associated with Hyde. My point is I genuinely don't believe he pushes that s*** or even cares one way or the other for that matter. I agree it's lame he doesn't take a principled stance on that, probably cause Hyde helped him on the come up. At the end of the day if I inspected every contributor to or associate of everybody I listened to, I think I'd probably cut my library in half. That's all I'm getting at.

Dawg she created an entire subgenre and made music for 6 years dropping multiple albums a year before her blowup this year why does everyone have this thing about any artist getting popular now

most old celebs were heavily connected or related to people before they got any traction. We can see and know the grind of mad people now way more than before. Yeat and doechii we can clearly see their grind and story from being nobody. Fakemink. Lone’s dad was I-20 but he went his dad was a washed up rapper by then and he went his entire own way grinding for years slowly before opium’s crew scouted him. Jane remover made music nonstop for 6 years and made a whole influential subgenre before she got anything beyond indie attention. Xaviersobased also has had a gradual 4 year rise and he spearheaded an entire subgenre and put multiple people on.

It’s just people are way more obsessed with triple checking that someone came up with no familial music connections and no connects pre blowup we hyperanalyzing every come up

u just referenced sematary who’s a niche underground rapper lol

connections and we have more access to info lol
You deadass think asap rocky dropped one song and miraculously had a 3 million dollar deal? Drake’s uncle played guitar for Al green. J Cole was on a Jay Z album before his first studio album. Wayne was picked up as a child to be a star. Lorde, dua lipa, we could go on forever man rising in music industry Eman’s connections and using them properly there’s a million rich kids who never made anything of themselves. It’s how it’s always been

All these underground mfs are just mocking black ppl and I include the black underground mfs in that too

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Gonna listen to seam btw never heard of them.

I appreciate the elucidation in the other comment and in this one. I think music is highly collaborative and so there will be stuff like this, although not always to this degree and this thread is a bit mroe specific about it. I do understand it come across as a leap i didn't really make my thought clear.

There is something to be said about paths and principles of consumption e.g. Daniel Ek's military investments in combination with his views on music and spotify's treatment of artists, etc. I wrestle with it sometimes. I don't use spotify but tim cook is also sucking up to trump and ice if people are looking for an alternative how do they weigh whats better/worse? I'm not sure its worth stopping at those two options though, cus I don't like the idea of giving my money to either of them.

It did come across as you were trying to hand wave it away with the silly pics and infantilizing of a grown man as if he cant process a string of thoughts. Like there are plenty people who don't have a college education who don't think that s***s ok. I know the world I live in though and many people do indeed support that stuff.

This is part of talking about music at times and I do think these conversations are worthwhile, as it seems many people in this thread do too.