41 minutes ago . Or 2 episodes of teen titans ago .

That's fair enough

black folks can make important moves on their own. they don’t need a contract or a white man with a check. that’s the whole point

it sucks bc it was very clear, after the controversy of the statement, what he was trying to say. a very obvious step after years of saying black americans/americans in general are new slaves

but he said it while on his way to making billions with adidas tho. like even if he had made the statement “correctly” i don’t think it would’ve mattered. it was the wrong messenger at the time

We already gathered how you view mental conditions when you randomly brought up your brothers alcoholism on the internet . Alcoholism has more of a choice than bipolar but both need people to accept treatment and take accountability for the possible pain they cause

It’s not to be disrespectful and I understand why it makes no sense or is misguided. I said his statements were wrong a full hour ago and valentine been on “ this is a defense “ . Only God can truly know . If people don’t believe in God or a higher power I respect that too but I don’t believe it’s my place to judge or demonize anyone if it’s not for outright crimes

they didn’t take advantage of s***. Kanye willingly went to TMZ because he felt he needed to get this message out, his own words. he knew what he was doing and AGREED with Van Lathan and knew even back in 2018 when he did this dumbass s*** that fans like you would forgive him and never let him go. stop all this deflecting s*** man. I’ll just quote Ye and the fact that everything is a SOCIAL EXPERIMENT

I wouldn’t frame a one-liner or a headline. What I would say is actually it’s literally like I feel like I’m in court having to justify a robbery that I didn’t actually commit, where I’m having to somehow reframe something that I never said. I feel stupid to have to say out loud that I know that being put on the boat was — but also I’m not backing down, bro. What I will do is I’ll take responsibility for the fact that I allowed my voice to be used back to back in ways that were not protective of it when my voice means too much.
Back to back?
Wearing the Trump hat, because my voice is unprotected, and I believe that the black community wants to protect my voice. By me saying slave in any way at TMZ left my voice unprotected. So it’s not a matter of the facts of if I said that exact line or not, it’s the fact that I put myself in a position to be unprotected by my tribe.

like what are we talking about, this nigga been known he’s not able to be cancelled

Do you feel that if black fans abandon you, that’s something that you could come back from? Do you think that is a death blow?
It’s not going to happen.
It’s just not going to happen?
Like I said, wouldn’t leave. Like yes, got a bunch of different opinions. You’re not always going to agree, but they’re not going to leave.

I understand all that but i just think his statement was just inflamatory for no reason and ended up not even really making sense with the point he was trying to make

He has bipolar and he was ramped up at TMZ, he's not politically or historically educated

The larger context of it was always contracts and working with people that despise them or control their free will . Essentially saying the mental enslavement began with a much harder difficulty level than the enslavement we face now which isn’t literal whips chains rapes and boats . But is is still largely a form of oppression by design

He had mentioned the loss of blue collar jobs for black people and cities being constructed with long commutes to work . Entire societal systems that trap us in cycles of debt , imprisonment , d*** use and losing family stability

As someone tends to do while having a manic episode on live tv with interviewers whose goal it is to get content . Not in any way have a serious discussion on politics with any artist

Name me a time you’ve gone to tmz to see an artist interviewed about anything yet alone serious topics . It was a mistake for him to ever take that interview.

You genuinely aren’t reading what I’m saying. So I give up enjoy teen titans brother . All love to you

“ his own words “

In a manic episode

I said he was wrong . “ forgive “ is a stretch what he did was wrong

Forgive implies I let what celebrities or artist do destroy art

Pharrell a Zionist I still listened to pusha t album man

One thing you can always count on, and this thread is the perfect example, is the average responding to things based on how they FEEL. Not proper comprehension, not acknowledging any level of nuance, just... feelings.

kanye the goat no cap

What does “ forgive “ mean to you . I listen to many artist I don’t agree with politically or what they’ve done . Chief Keef said he was going to raise the murder rate in Chicago and lead to the death of people all around I still listen to him

Like what does forgive mean when it comes to art

Artist are hypocrites. I listen to jay z and I don’t f*** with how he moves

Me listening to artist doesn’t mean I agree with how they move or things they’ve said

But at its core what does “ forgive “ mean for saying and doing things we disagree with when it comes to art . Pressing play on a song . Listening to all the love to get through the pain I’m experiencing in my reality isn’t a lack of acknowledgment of the pain ye caused to many communities. S*** valentine and I have said terrible things to each other on this site before . I can still hold a conversation with him without hatred .

Ye didn’t do anything that affected my life personally . He did to the Jewish community and other communities that rightfully reacted to his words said .

But nothing dictates we all must react to words and platforming during a manic episode . Many of us were living our lives dealing with our reality

A celebrity can say the sky green that’s out of my control so what am I to do . I already said what he said was bad wrong reprehensible and I’m glad he is medicated

Me listening to all the love or watching his show doesn’t mean I support hate that he spewed

there goes that depersonalization I was talking about.

is carving out an identity as a human being in a social order that is constantly seeking to dehumanize you, not enough and the most powerful form of resistance?

nah, rich black man say contracts controlled by white man and we still slaves :vlosereave: goddamn you niggas man…

Brother you are a literal open fan of artist that are also reprehensible

we are talking about Kanye West, please do not try to red herring the conversation to make it about me and my personal life you know zero about lmfao

If the logic is we should only listen to Artist we agree with that have caused no harm to disenfranchised communities which artist fit that description? Cause all of them have said abhorrently stupid out of touch things

I’m saying you are hypocritical and reserve this energy solely for ye

When you beat a dead horse because again in all caps

WE HAVE ALREADY SAID YE WAS WRONG FOR WHAT HE SAID AND DID . MAKING THOSE ACTIONS REPREHENSIBLE

cancel ye or else or else what nigga you are going to post about how much you hate him for the 72nd hour. Since bully released you been doing this non stop . Even with people telling you they believe he was in the wrong is reprehensible for his actions

so why do you keep responding if you agree he’s a bad person? why do you keep tryna see the gray area?

if you pointed out anyone I support like you say I do, I’d denounce them willingly because I don’t know these niggas nor see a gray area within their ignorance or stupidity. Goddamn bruh

I don’t view people as good or evil . “ gray area “ I don’t think he deserves to die or be in prison . I listen to a song that’s not forgiving him

Denouncing people online multiple days in a row is PERFORMATIVE. Just listen to his music or not no one cares . If you never listen to ye again for the rest of your life no one is confused why we understand. Telling people every day and saying how much better than them you are on a moral righteous high horse is old