I mean idk how else to, doechii’s rise was mainly women and LGBT audiences loving her and they f***ing adore her yet straight men on this site say they don’t know anyone who listens to her and she was done by bots because they dint interact with those people but I saw it clearly

Nicki minaj clearly is of a different level of legend status to women and queer people for a long time, etc etc

Sexxy red and glorilla are beloved for not only making fun music but music for people to feel themselves to. Meg is considered a great rapper and commercial titan.

The straight audience rarely sees the substance or appeal in these artists and doesn’t even see their rise the same way nor their accomplishments. In discussions they are often dismissed off trivial basis, painted as meaningless bullshit with w****s showing they p**** as a sign of society degradation, and just not put in the same conversations. Megan has good rap skill undeniably aside from her subject matter not being crazy. But, these are to an extent considered “seperate” sections to the main hip hop canon to a lot of people. It’s “oh yeah the girls”

no 😈

‘Can’t rap’ says it perfectly dude

i feel like this is a question you already no the answer to

Anyway new John glacier out now go peep that

Crying about misogyny in hip hop what are the poor women going to do about the hurtful lyrics in hip hop songs

part of why she has those audiences is because she was actively marketed to them with a huge push. she was on rupaul before she even had a top 10 hit and filmed it before she had won the grammy. this is actually nuts when you consider rupaul is probably the most important show in like lgbt media historically and someone who barely had a notable career was on the show ahead of many substantially bigger artists with more notable lgbt followers. like dont get me wrong, her label is earning their paycheck w a masterclass in marketing her, but her push is absolutely nuts compared to many other artists in her space

This a subtle expression of what im talking about btw^

There is no male artist that I’ve seen anyone discredit their accomplishments due to painting them as just being subservient talentless hacks handed their career by men at a label, who frequently tackles boom bap beats with so much effort in their raps they have entire 2 hour interviews to describe their process and lyrics that are dismissed like this off no good basis. At such a mass scale. They will grasp at any good reason to and the one re release is what provides that meanwhile mans gas big Sean and s***

Bro. You’re seen my posts. I hate certain artists on here more than I have expressed my disdain for Doechii

I have also openly hated on TDE multiple times over the past 10 years

Yea so doechii already had a massive hit before the album that earned budget for her and was after the albums release already getting incredibly popular especially among lgbt audiences who were in love with her before a Grammy.

That rupaul appearance wasn’t that big and her career didn’t gain anything from it like that, doechii was still at a career low after it released until the momentum of alligator bites post release.

You can hate something for being popular but the nature of said narratives is what’s clearly not normal for a male artist.

my point isnt that being on rupaul defined her career, its that its indicative of how and where her label was pushing her vs other female artists

Yeah imagine wanting the genre you love to be welcoming and friendly to all types of immutable characteristics and to try to resist art reinforcing harm how soft fr

Well I mean she is queer and very outwardly so, so im not surprised. However, ice spice, Doja cat, lizzo, Nicki, and chapell all guested too no?

probably never

To me also it’s like it’s normal to hate on something that got popular

But the level of VITRIOL in the hate consistently for female artists, outright dismissal, and erasure of their talent or contributions is what’s staggering. On top of being backhanded with comments on their looks and body all the time.

Not until men stop hating Black women

This the most silly least thought out thing u Eva said but ima let u be G

Take this s*** to bluesky fam I am not reading all of that

kinda reinforcing my point rn G

He’s a fan of slam metal which has bled to his aesthetic influence (though neutered by the label, he wanted the cover of a great chaos to be a Gordy slam metal esque cover and it inspired the pace and ethos of it and more chaos) and the clear sonic intention of the dark noisy chaos series

Feel like this assumption in his community is just LOWKEY partially racism because a white artist like 2hollis saying this that doesn’t make metal or s*** with guitars wouldn’t be doubted like this lol he’s specifically into SLAM METAL, pop punk, rob zombie and s*** dawg like slam is incredibly specific. It inspired the aesthetic direction he wanted for the chaos era especially more chaos’ pace, noisy punishing sound and intention, and the horror Gordy covers and videos he wanted that got neutered by the label. The start of Jennifer’s body was an exact replica of the start brain stew by green day.

Oh brother

No

Yea fair enough it’ll prolly also just keep reducing with time

true

hip hop would be a great vessel for that tbh bc it influences so much in the world