spongebob

2y

They also do have a state its called europe and the united states a lot of them have dual citizenship because they're not from the region

spongebob

2y

People literally born in the United states that move to isr (potentially because they get a s***offender charge) its not the same thing ur talking about

_ _

2y

Just to clarify,

I'm not pro-Israel or Zionist; rather, I come from a Muslim and Christian background and am POC.

But this is not true. Jews have lived alongside Muslims in the Levant for millennia, even before Islam was introduced.

The United States is a refuge for all, not just Jews, and the reason Jewish people fled back to Jerusalem to establish "Israel" was to escape centuries of discrimination against them in the US and EU, not just during WWII. WWII was the straw that broke the camel's back.

You also have to realise there are like 3-4 ethnic Jewish groups (Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Ethiopian, etc), some that haven't lived with each other in thousands of years. Israel was made to home them all, but obviously made in corruption.

spongebob

2y

U lost me at "The United States is a refuge for all" I'm afraid

Name

2y

It is tho

Name

2y

I am sure there are many more innocent Jews who take advantage of that as well

spongebob

2y

U lost me at "The United States is a refuge for all" I'm afraid

Name

2y

It is tho

Perreo

2y

I haven't kept up with the s*** in the middle east post the initial October attacks but from what I've gathered seems like both sides (Israel and Palestinians) want the other eliminated completely

If you ask me seems like american youth has been manipulated into taking an anti Israel stance based on hamas propaganda. A lot of the messaging seems very antisemitic.

Personally i feel like American youth should be protesting things that effect them at home like cost of tuition or student debt

All these college kids just seem to he virtue signaling and joining a trend

I don't agree with the US backing Israel nor do i agree with the years of oppression the Palestinians have faced but tbh its not my problem. All i can do is use my power to vote and unfortunately Israel is the US's proxy into the middle east so they kind of have to d***ride in order to secure American military imperialism

This is the cost of living a privileged western lifestyle

spongebob

2y

No one who's taking a Palestinians home they were kicked out of if not killed by the occupation is innocent imo

Name

2y

I hate the fact it’s a settler colonial expansionist ethnostate
If there was a way the people of Israel could have a state without the baggage id be okay with it. Like the Kurks should have a state

spongebob

2y

Interesting perspective u got there, bless up my son

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2y

You get the point. I am a second-generation Eritrean, whose parents fled the war and sought refuge in New York

_ _

2y

Just to clarify,

I'm not pro-Israel or Zionist; rather, I come from a Muslim and Christian background and am POC.

But this is not true. Jews have lived alongside Muslims in the Levant for millennia, even before Islam was introduced.

The United States is a refuge for all, not just Jews, and the reason Jewish people fled back to Jerusalem to establish "Israel" was to escape centuries of discrimination against them in the US and EU, not just during WWII. WWII was the straw that broke the camel's back.

You also have to realise there are like 3-4 ethnic Jewish groups (Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Ethiopian, etc), some that haven't lived with each other in thousands of years. Israel was made to home them all, but obviously made in corruption.

Name

2y

How is it not. The U.S. has historically taken in people from all backgrounds fleeing whatever issue happening elsewhere

Perreo

2y

I haven't kept up with the s*** in the middle east post the initial October attacks but from what I've gathered seems like both sides (Israel and Palestinians) want the other eliminated completely

If you ask me seems like american youth has been manipulated into taking an anti Israel stance based on hamas propaganda. A lot of the messaging seems very antisemitic.

Personally i feel like American youth should be protesting things that effect them at home like cost of tuition or student debt

All these college kids just seem to he virtue signaling and joining a trend

I don't agree with the US backing Israel nor do i agree with the years of oppression the Palestinians have faced but tbh its not my problem. All i can do is use my power to vote and unfortunately Israel is the US's proxy into the middle east so they kind of have to d***ride in order to secure American military imperialism

This is the cost of living a privileged western lifestyle

spongebob

2y

How many times are they complicit or direct cause of those conflicts happening elsewhere though lol (along with the Global north so to speak)

I'm talking neocolonialism in Africa and so on...

Donebefore

2y

I'm nominally pro-palestine but cynical that any creation of a palestinian state wouldn't just result in a continuation of their forever-conflict, only with palestine bolstered by better iran/hezbollah support once they had control of their own borders. don't really think either side would actually be satisfied with realistic borders.

Name

2y

We can all walk and chew gum at the same time right? Not saying your wrong but like

spongebob

2y

I walk and chew gum sometimes yeah, sometimes i be sitting and talking on the phone,

or standing and reading the newspaper

Name

2y

See, we’re in agreement

spongebob

2y

I don't really find the a***ogy compelling so i started joking

Name

2y

It was a good joke