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  • Jun 16, 2021

    I thought if you were a photographer and you took an image of someone, you owned that image and can do what you please with it. If Jay Z didn’t want it exploited then he should offer to pay for the images.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I would assume the person taking the photos, you know setting up the shots developing and editing the photos, owns the rights to the photographs...Jay being weird.

    Absolutely it’s law. Jay is gonna lose.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    greatest

    Absolutely it’s law. Jay is gonna lose.

    Only way I can see Jay Z winning this is if there was a contract that said Mannion couldn't sell the photographs. But seeing as he has been doing so for a couple decades whether it be to magazines, galleries, etc...clearly that's not the case lol no way Jay Z or any of his people were not aware of this going on for years

  • Jun 16, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Only way I can see Jay Z winning this is if there was a contract that said Mannion couldn't sell the photographs. But seeing as he has been doing so for a couple decades whether it be to magazines, galleries, etc...clearly that's not the case lol no way Jay Z or any of his people were not aware of this going on for years

    Yeah I’m on the photographer side here

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    I’m on Hov’s side. You not about to be selling images of me, or my likeness now that I’m famous and successful without giving me my cut at least.

    Secondly he could be putting be packaging those pictures of Hov in ways he doesn’t like, or agree with.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    i hate ppl who arrogantly assume they own the things they make

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    Jun 16, 2021
    Jitney Spearx

    were Not all lawyers

    It be different if Max wasn't slandering photographers in his post like he knew what he was talking about.

    He earned that diss

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    Jun 16, 2021
    Babaláwo

    I’m on Hov’s side. You not about to be selling images of me, or my likeness now that I’m famous and successful without giving me my cut at least.

    Secondly he could be putting be packaging those pictures of Hov in ways he doesn’t like, or agree with.

    He shoulda took the pics himself then

  • Jun 16, 2021
    ALPHABEAR

    Yeah Hov counting in PND years

    Hov scummy af and this will backfire on him, if the photographer goes heavy on social media. Can you imagine? The great Hov, champion of creatives, squeezing and oppressing a small photographer for selling prints of photos HE HIMSELF took?

    “PND Years” yeah u goated

  • Jun 16, 2021

    Hov should let this slide if we’re being real

  • Jun 16, 2021

    "It stops today.”

    Get your rights Hov

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Chelly

    the photographer's merch website for extra context

    https://shop.jonathanmannion.com/collections

    with these prices i’m on hov’s camp’s side

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    huey p rxcan

    with these prices i’m on hov’s camp’s side

    This, the photographer is far from an innocent

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    Jun 16, 2021
    neu

    This, the photographer is far from an innocent

    What isn't innocent? He's selling his work he did for a price he wants

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    Jun 16, 2021

    If this thread was about a music artist music being used by a label or someone y'all would be in support but because it's a photographer y'all slandering dude?.

    Unless bro signed a deal with Jay saying he owned the photos he fine

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    UIP

    this is not how things work at all LMFAO you’re a f***ing moron bro, stop talking out of your ass on KTT2 the only thing that would keep the photographer from owning full rights on those pics is him selling the full rights, which he obviously hasn’t done.

    doesn’t matter who paid who for the f***ing photography session

    You so sure of yourself we’ll see how the court rules

    It does state that Hov has “strict control over whether and how his name, likeness, identity and persona are used,” so we’ll see

  • Jun 16, 2021

    Man, Aaliyah was a f***ing dime for real

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    It’s giving Eric Adams what OP?

  • Jun 16, 2021

    Jay is possessed by money the more he gets the more demonic he becomes s*** is scary , D'evils fr

  • Jun 16, 2021

    If the contract didn’t state that the photographer has no rights to the photos then Jay Z is wasting his time.

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    Jun 16, 2021
    berito

    teenager?? hov was 27 when rd came out

    LMFAOOO

    Hov slimy af

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Jay Z has a case if he owns the image rights.

    However, I doubt back in 1996 he had any idea on how important it is to own these images. Plus he had no idea how big he would be. If I'm not mistaking Jay Z didn't own the reasonable doubt matters until recently after purchasing them.

    This is a common fight between photographers and a subject. The photographer has barely any rights unless their contract states they can reuse the images.

    However, sometimes the photographer is protected if the contract clearly states they own the images not selected by the client.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    huey p rxcan

    with these prices i’m on hov’s camp’s side

    That's dirty cheap for a print by a famous photographer of a famous subject. Jay is grimey.

  • Jun 16, 2021

    Jay Z forgot about this guy until he saw Johnathan's resurgence with the DMX pics.

  • Jun 16, 2021
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    Bandito

    That's dirty cheap for a print by a famous photographer of a famous subject. Jay is grimey.

    meh i guesss idk about photography maybe i should be on bro’s side since jay a millionaire

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