NICEMAN

4y

This shouldn't be downplayed as "just sampling". Compare Bound 2 to the OG Ponderosa Twins song, then compare A boy is a gun to the original song. Tyler not doing enough to change s*** for it to be considered "just sampling". A lot of you just didn't realize this and now you're dismissing the thread as hating Would probably be agreeing with OP right now if this were a Logic album

I'm not going to act like Tyler is a liar or a snake because I've been aware of the songs he sampled and been bumping them for years now. But Puppet, Thank You, Are we still friends doesn't change enough for it to be considered entirely new tracks and certainly doesn't warrant that "All songs written, produced and arranged by" s*** he feels the need to flex on the cover. Would be far more suitable for Wolf, CB or FlowerBoy instead of IGOR

Will Fujiwara

4y

we don't need the government involved because we like to touch

TheGarden

4y

post them

i'll start

0:56
Billie Jean drums too

spongebob

4y

congrats op u figured out that music influences other music

Stay Healthy

4y

I've been rooting for tyler for a minute but at some point a spade is a spade.

This man had the audacity to put "All songs written and produced and arranged..." when very little musical writing and arranging has happened. This sentence is a lie, straight up.

There's no flips either, to frame this as sampling most likely hurts the legal case for sampling

I THINK

He takes the main chord loop, the entire hook including the lyrics of one song and then puts the drums of the other. This is a mashup and not his production. No flips

GONE GONE, THANK YOU

The first part is literally the same chords and melody as this first song. And the second part is a cover with some tape fx (im not recreating the
vst chain rn lol) and an arpeggiator on the most basic settings. There are some original drums but were still in mashup territory

ARE WE STILL FRIENDS
He literally is just riffing vocally & lyrically over an al green instrumental. There's a little breakdown in the middle but if he posed this as anything other than a cover in any jazz setting he'd be laughed out

PUPPET
Same story no flips just rapping on other ppls songs or a simplified version of them at the front of the song

Theres then a portion of the songs which get closer to original and can be argued as original

Igor's theme (the drums are straight ripped but that really doesn't mean much, I'll give him his 5 saturated synth notes they cool)
New magic wand ( the spoon loop is kind of a flip I guess but the music and the music is taken from a small portion of the og track, were in flip territory)

A BOY IS A GUN is an obvious flip but I kind of wish he wouldnt beat a dead horse

There's then 3 songs on the album which are largely original
EARFQUAKE
I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE (this is the most original music on the album)
WHAT'S GOOD

The dude has admitted to lifting stevie s*** so it wouldnt surprise if he's taking more that he doesnt have to credit cause you can't shouldnt be able to trademark chords.

But yea this man is a fraud maybe a little less so than awaken my love but to put the front statement on the album is an insult to all working musicians. He's doing less work than a good portion of Atlanta producers that his ignorant fans like to look down on. You can't even argue these as simple flips like ye, he's looping the part of the song that's already a loop

Facts are that saying "chords" repeatedly in conversation with no context is about 2 steps removed from "gatar". This is the same guy who spent years talking about bagging "models in europe" like a kid with a "girlfriend in a different school", we probably shouldnt be surprised by his insecure ass. He has some talent but is just a biter tbh.

this took way to f***ing long damn
tell me if I missed anyhting there's probably a bunch more on the rest of his albums

Will Fujiwara

4y

we don't need the government involved because we like to touch

NICEMAN

4y

!!!
Some of the tracks in OP is similar s***. He barely changed anything but has that disclaimer on the cover

Hullstar

4y

No none of those are the same at all (not even close)

Sir Baudelaire was an existing hip hop beat. All of those are repurposed interpolations or samples. Not the same.

Bestowed

4y

The actual hater is Tyler the revisionist.

Claiming the music was authentic and original WHILE blatantly rehashing actually artistry and originality is some jighlypuff hater s*** mane

NICEMAN

4y

I really hope none of you "It's just sampling bro" niggas were hating on Dawn FM or An Evening with Silk Sonic for being too derivative of older music

Smacked Voodoo

4y

Anti-sample threads are so wack and white