Edgy ass Tyler fan using “ sped “ and “ retarted “ as insults because they want you to know they are effigy but are afraid to get banned

tbh this guy lost me - I don't even think he knows what point he's even trying to make. It's pretty sad because I'm pretty sure we're on the same side, he's just going about it in a very weird backwards way.

I knew you were a piece of s***, now I see why.

i think the difference is this

In 90s and even 2000s when white rappers came up, they didnt try to be like gucci man and always did their research/paid homage to the culture

Now with social media, there isnt a need for that and you dont need a cosign of hip hop to be considered valid. Someone like Ian is influenced by the music of his era for sure, grew up listening to future and in his head probably thinks its cool to sound like a zone 6 rapper because he is shielded from in person coaching/criticism as his whole career is online. That's where the disconnect is. I don't think there is a easy solution.

hip hop until 2010 was able to gatekeep for the most part for the better or worse and people had to pay homage. All that s*** is gone now.

I like this response

I 100% agree with everything in this post

I’m saying the gate is open and they are being paid and brought in by people richer and more in power than any of us so do we cry about it or Adapt

Khaled was doing the “ f*** this mysterious music “ s*** to Tyler and we just laughed and kept blasting earfquake

lol cowboys gonna lose

The point I’m trying to make is what another poster just said on this page

This gate keeping is useless

Everything expert is saying I’ve said in this thread just disjointed cause I’m typing from an iPhone and I’m not an expert lol. I agree with every single word in his post
It’s also why I don’t find it effective to devote energy to Ian acting like he affects all if hip hop

Because he doesn’t ….

What are you trying to gate keep when anyone can upload a song to SoundCloud and a record label be interested

You wind up looking goofy like white people that hated on lil nas x

No, it isn't but ok.

when Hip Hop had actual gatekeepers despite being flawed characters who were motivated by profit and took orders from white Jewish CEOs the genre never truly strayed away from it's roots and was able to remain dominated by Black American artists. Even white rap fans despite how annoying & fetishy some of them got would have clowned a white rapper like Ian back in the day. That's the level of power & influence we had when we used to gatekeep the culture and when there were actual Hip Hop gatekeepers in the industry.

Unfortunately, it's allot harder to gatekeep because the industry gatekeepers don't have the same level of power and the last few generations of middle/upper class Black folks are disconnected from the rest of us so they don't even see the issue with white culture vultures.

Nigga this isn’t the 90s you can’t gate keep with the internet how it is right now and the spread of music

I just explained to you the importance of gatekeeping and even mentioned how it's harder to do that you now you idiot. Even if you think it's impossible to gatekeep now, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be vocal and disown culture vultures publicly.

this saga has made me learn there's apparently a white guy named Ian that makes music, I thought we were talking about Ian Connor the whole time

I still don't understand your reasoning lol like your whole shtick has just been telling Black folks to stop complaining about your culture being taken away from you because it's inevitable plus you're not mentioning how capitalism plays a role & you said a bunch of things I don't like in the past.

Regardless of whether we can stop culture vultures from infiltrating the genre or not we should still be able to talk about it.

This isn't even just happening with Black American music. Right now were seeing Latino genres being colonized by Spaniards and that's after non Black Latinos already white washed it their damn selves - you think if more mainstream Latino artists spoke against it that it wouldn't instantly spark a dialogue about it? Just talking about it publicly is a good thing.

Idk vanilla ice and snow are both from the 90s

Granted vanilla ice was in the break dancing scene so he had somewhat of a hip hop background

But idk wtf snow was on lmaooo maybe he was valid in the streets idk

and hip hop has suffered due to the lack of said gatekeeping

Ross callin' me the white boy
And the s*** kind of got a ring to it
'Cause all these rappers wavin' white flags
While the whole f***in' club sing to it

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“ importance of gate keeping “

It’s not harder to do so its impossible by definition

And it’s not important if you simply don’t give the bullshit attention then you win

It’s impossible to gate keep . We are not a monolith

No one gonna shoot a cultural appropriator

The gate keeping can be done by not giving bullshit attention good or bad ….

We don’t listen to Ian

We don’t speak on Ian

Gets him less attention
Less streams

Tyler doing this gets him MORE streams and no one that was going to work with Ian before is like “ well former edgelord Tyler said he not cool with Ian so I’m not “

They being somewhat silly so we allow it

Exactly so many people who had no idea who Ian was now not only know but are listening to his music out of curiosity

S*** counter productive to preach to the choir

“ telling black folks “

I am black