i believed this until i looked up the largest countries in the world by land mass

It’s more so about setting a standard of living for citizens than people being lazy and not wanting to work

Landmass is one thing but i was meaning population. If the power structure in america was more authoritarian or concentrated to one branch then it would be easier for this size of country but there’s so many people and so much bureaucracy between federal, state, and THe branches between them

if anything the fact that the us wouldnt really require industrialization on the same scale that russia and china did is a massive advantage to the post revolutionary conditions over there

the only reason it would need it in theory is for the inevitable ground invasion from canada supported by the uk and european bourgeoisie class

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the current state structure will not carry over in case of a marxist leninist revolution anyhow, you might be interested in State and Revolution by Lenin

This is copium tbh

Yes there is a large stratum of Americans who are genuinely tasked with ensuring their material survival on a daily basis. No, there has never been a point in history where the large majority of a working class within a country were completely organized towards a single cause of a Marxist revolution

But there are millions of Americans who struggle but don't have to fight for survival daily, who just don't give a f***. It's a common enough thing in the west/liberal society in general, but this kind of apathy is especially potent in the USA

That's not how socialism works

Unemployed people are still part of the working class. They're part of the reserve army of workers. Sure there is a small portion of unemployed people who just truly do not give a f*** and don't want to work or go to school or do anything productive yet expect to live off of the fruits of other people's labor, but that's precisely capitalist thinking, not socialist. Capitalists literally survive off of other people's labor, often doing absolutely nothing other than attending board meetings and press conferences themselves.

Do you think being a business owner is sunshine and rainbows? Or are you truly delusional enough to think that you're going to work really hard and over time you'll be a rich enough to live off of other people's labor and do little-to-none yourself?

The hell of capitalism is the firm, not that the firm has a boss.

Nah. The contradictions of the system naturally and periodically produce intense crises that end up shaking things up. The powers that be have been incredible at staving off total collapse...but only by pummeling the environment, the most vulnerable populations around the world, and any remote emergence of socialism on the planet. But none of that has been able to truly overcome the unstable nature of capitalism, especially in its late stages.

I mean throw in low-cost housing, guaranteed employment, and universal healthcare/education and yeah that sounds like a dream to me tbh. Not sure what planet you're living on

What

How many people does this honestly apply to, are the people who this doesn't apply to deserving of the indignities they face by simply trying to survive and do an honest day's work, and does making six figures shield you from the potential to get fired, see your form of labor automated, or have a completely subordinate and dehumanizing position at your place of employment?

How does one simply "make more money"?

Nope. Chasing your dreams is dumb. When it comes to working, chase your skills and your opportunities, and make sure you're not doing something you hate. Idealizing work is a recipe for disappointment and/or kneecapping your economic/personal growth for the sake of chasing a (near-)fantasy

I truly think this may be the most inept take I've seen regarding inner city poverty, and I say this as someone whose guidance counselor completely s*** the bed when I was in high school.

What if you're not academically inclined? What if your family needs you to stay at home and work in order to avoid eviction? What if you have no means of physically attending the school? What if you can't afford anything to do with school regardless of the grant for tuition or even housing? What if you can pull off going to college but are realistically incapable of pursuing one of the more obvious, lucrative majors offered, thus making the entire pursuit almost futile? What if FAFSA doesn't cut you a grant that satisfies your needs? Why has every other developed country, and every socialist country, on the planet adopted an at least free public option for college, with all of the examples of such a system being resounding successes every time it's been implemented?

On what planet would a capitalist society that has successfully automated the entire labor force, or even the entire general labor force, also going to be the planet that responsibly taxes corporate profits? Literally what is the incentive to do that? UBI would cover bare minimum expenses to keep consumption viable in order to avoid systemic collapse, it's not going to be fun coupons from billionaires "looking out for the greater good", it's them ensuring 100% extraction of surplus value by not having to pay wages any more but still existing within a system that needs consumer activity to survive, that can't be offset purely by luxury/industrial markets.

Why should I care if the CEO of Palantir is openly advocating for the genocide of Palestinians if I can make rent this month? Also, with moneyed interests utterly and openly controlling the entire American political landscape, what risk does leaving someone like that in a position of power have towards democracy, environmental sustainability (war is, amongst other things, very pollutive), and peaceful coexistence amongst our species?

Do you hear yourself?

They have rental properties in Cuba

The majority of people who are working are living paycheck to paycheck I don't care about your cousin who was able to game the Forex market for a few months.

Link the thread fam

Socialism is when the government spends money. The United States military is socialist. Public schools? Socialist. Roads? Socialist. Law enforcement? Socialist. Honestly, we already live in a socialist country!

Yeah like I understand not fully committing to every single aspect of the theory. I subscribe to it, but I understand the hesitation and/or potential confusion around the theories, or even skepticism to an extent. But time and time again we have at least seen socially-oriented, pro-worker policies get passed that make the entire society more stable and just happier.

There's no hard time-table for how long it takes to build socialism. It takes as long as it takes, just moving in that direction is good. Love what Xiomara Castro has done in Honduras for example.

Socialism actually has a better chance of success developing in a big country if the big country is highly industrialized, which the USA is. The reason socialism had a hard time getting off the ground (but was/is ultimately successful and an improvement over the preceding mode of production in these respective societies) in Russia/China is because they were both extremely underdeveloped and isolated. But even against those odds, they changed the f***ing world and became superpowers.