not sure about better music but i like his topic more than Em's (which doesn't say much because i don't care for either of their topics)
Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT
I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho
Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT
I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho
Jay Z makes accessible music
How is anything I'm saying a fallacy?
1. Popularity has no bearings on quality when it comes to art
2. Eminem's status in contemporary rap wouldn't be different if he dropped more albums throughout his prime, because the problem for people wasn't the quantity, it was the quality of everything after The Eminem Show
Didn’t even quote you and you knew it was about you. You’re being up 2k video games, Taylor swift and maroon 5 to win an argument where none of that has to do with the discussion
Jay Z makes accessible music
Exactly
This thread hella nerdy why are we discussing new york times
Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT
I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho
true but i don't really credit him much for it. He had Kanye producing for him. thats a cheat code right there. Em had goat production too when he had access to prime Dre beats. The only goat that doesn't have top tier production is Nas
Eminem is literally hip hop linkin park
Which means hes a goat
Is that the guys who did a collab album with Jay Z?
Eminem is literally hip hop linkin park
Which means hes a goat
Because Jay Z writes music I actually enjoy listening to.
No, you dunce.
There's no such thing as good or bad music, only music you like or dislike.
I would rather die than listen to a Kate Busb album but some niggas think that s*** is the best thing on the planet
See, this is why I said having this discussion with you is pointless.
We were discussing the quality of Eminem’s recent music, and you tried to disqualify me calling it garbage by saying that “millions of people disagree”. So clearly, you view quality as something objective that can be measured by commercial performance, but that’s just not the case at all
true but i don't really credit him much for it. He had Kanye producing for him. thats a cheat code right there. Em had goat production too when he had access to prime Dre beats. The only goat that doesn't have top tier production is Nas
90s nas had amazing production tho
Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically
If he dropped in his prime like Jay did it wouldn’t have been ass compared to his newer stuff
Jay dropped 8 albums compared (collab albums included) to ems 4 albums
Re-Up wasn’t a collab album just a compilation
Eminem was past his creative prime when Encore dropped pretty much
He dropped almost every year from 1999-2002
See, this is why I said having this discussion with you is pointless.
We were discussing the quality of Eminem’s recent music, and you tried to disqualify me calling it garbage by saying that “millions of people disagree”. So clearly, you view quality as something objective that can be measured by commercial performance, but that’s just not the case at all
No, I view quality as subjective.
I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT.
Can you read, my guy?
No, I view quality as subjective.
I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT.
Can you read, my guy?
Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”
Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art
The Transformers movies made bank
Call of Duty makes bank every year
There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts
90s nas had amazing production tho
Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically
Nas has consistently made better music than Jay-Z in the past 10 years
@op by this logic hemingway sucks because he writes in mechanical speak
Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”
Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art
The Transformers movies made bank
Call of Duty makes bank every year
There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts
So why does your opinion matter more than theirs?
@op by this logic hemingway sucks because he writes in mechanical speak
Eminem would actually be Hemingway in this a***ogy
Eminem was past his creative prime when Encore dropped pretty much
He dropped almost every year from 1999-2002
3 albums from 99-02 compared to 5 albums
Again Jay dropped 8 albums from 98-06 while em dropped 4 albums and a compilation.
Leaving out 03-04 where he was dropping mixtapes that didn’t chart is insane amount or revisionism
Do you think Jay Z is a better songwriter than Eminem?
a million percent yeah
Since we being dumbasses in this threads. Ima add to the f***ery, Eminem has more #1 albums and songs in the last 10 years than Jay Z