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    redios

    not sure about better music but i like his topic more than Em's (which doesn't say much because i don't care for either of their topics)

    Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT

    I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho

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    Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT

    I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho

    Jay Z makes accessible music

  • shaleirose

    How is anything I'm saying a fallacy?

    1. Popularity has no bearings on quality when it comes to art

    2. Eminem's status in contemporary rap wouldn't be different if he dropped more albums throughout his prime, because the problem for people wasn't the quantity, it was the quality of everything after The Eminem Show

    Didn’t even quote you and you knew it was about you. You’re being up 2k video games, Taylor swift and maroon 5 to win an argument where none of that has to do with the discussion

  • Aisosa

    Jay Z makes accessible music

    Exactly

  • whitegirl

    This thread hella nerdy why are we discussing new york times

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    Eminem is literally hip hop linkin park

    Which means hes a goat

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    whitegirl

    Jayz clearly makes better music his production is literally top 3 OAT

    I definitely relate mor me to eminems lyrics tho

    true but i don't really credit him much for it. He had Kanye producing for him. thats a cheat code right there. Em had goat production too when he had access to prime Dre beats. The only goat that doesn't have top tier production is Nas

  • whitegirl

    Eminem is literally hip hop linkin park

    Which means hes a goat

    Is that the guys who did a collab album with Jay Z?

  • whitegirl

    Eminem is literally hip hop linkin park

    Which means hes a goat

  • Because Jay Z writes music I actually enjoy listening to.

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    Aisosa

    No, you dunce.

    There's no such thing as good or bad music, only music you like or dislike.

    I would rather die than listen to a Kate Busb album but some niggas think that s*** is the best thing on the planet

    See, this is why I said having this discussion with you is pointless.

    We were discussing the quality of Eminem’s recent music, and you tried to disqualify me calling it garbage by saying that “millions of people disagree”. So clearly, you view quality as something objective that can be measured by commercial performance, but that’s just not the case at all

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    redios

    true but i don't really credit him much for it. He had Kanye producing for him. thats a cheat code right there. Em had goat production too when he had access to prime Dre beats. The only goat that doesn't have top tier production is Nas

    90s nas had amazing production tho

    Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically

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    SyIIabIes

    If he dropped in his prime like Jay did it wouldn’t have been ass compared to his newer stuff
    Jay dropped 8 albums compared (collab albums included) to ems 4 albums
    Re-Up wasn’t a collab album just a compilation

    Eminem was past his creative prime when Encore dropped pretty much

    He dropped almost every year from 1999-2002

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    shaleirose

    See, this is why I said having this discussion with you is pointless.

    We were discussing the quality of Eminem’s recent music, and you tried to disqualify me calling it garbage by saying that “millions of people disagree”. So clearly, you view quality as something objective that can be measured by commercial performance, but that’s just not the case at all

    No, I view quality as subjective.

    I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT.

    Can you read, my guy?

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    Aisosa

    No, I view quality as subjective.

    I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT.

    Can you read, my guy?

    Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”

    Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art

    The Transformers movies made bank

    Call of Duty makes bank every year

    There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts

  • whitegirl

    90s nas had amazing production tho

    Jayz has longevity but at their peaks nas rivals jayz musically

    Nas has consistently made better music than Jay-Z in the past 10 years

  • @op by this logic hemingway sucks because he writes in mechanical speak

  • shaleirose

    Okay, so then why say “millions of people disagree”

    Who gives a s*** what millions of people think? The masses eat up bullshit all the time in numerous mediums of art

    The Transformers movies made bank

    Call of Duty makes bank every year

    There’s always bullshit at the top of the music charts

    So why does your opinion matter more than theirs?

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    Mark Moschino

    @op by this logic hemingway sucks because he writes in mechanical speak

    Eminem would actually be Hemingway in this a***ogy

  • shaleirose

    Eminem was past his creative prime when Encore dropped pretty much

    He dropped almost every year from 1999-2002

    3 albums from 99-02 compared to 5 albums
    Again Jay dropped 8 albums from 98-06 while em dropped 4 albums and a compilation.
    Leaving out 03-04 where he was dropping mixtapes that didn’t chart is insane amount or revisionism

  • Aisosa

    Do you think Jay Z is a better songwriter than Eminem?

    a million percent yeah

  • Aisosa

    Eminem would actually be Hemingway in this a***ogy

    in what f***ing universe?

  • Since we being dumbasses in this threads. Ima add to the f***ery, Eminem has more #1 albums and songs in the last 10 years than Jay Z

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    nigga said ye and drake

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    Mark Moschino

    in what f***ing universe?

    Jay Z is more descriptive and uses more literary devices while Eminem is more down to earth and plain-spoken?

    Do you even read Hemingway?

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