How Does The NYTimes Think Jay Z Is A Better Writer Than Eminem?

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    raps

    Ye got him but I mean nigga its prime MBDTF loading Ye vs Obama Administration Era Wizards Jersey Jay Z 5 years post retirement lol

    The album overall still is great to me

    MBDTF Ye was just charismatic, he wasn't actually a good rapper.

    Which is why it was shocking that he absolutely washed Jay Z who was supposed to be both charismatic and a lyrical genius

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    shaleirose

    Up there in what?

    The problem isn't that he was dropping infrequently

    The problem is that a majority of the music he's dropped post-Eminem Show has been absolute garbage

    According to you.

    I know millions of people that would disagree.

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    Aisosa

    MBDTF Ye was just charismatic, he wasn't actually a good rapper.

    Which is why it was shocking that he absolutely washed Jay Z who was supposed to be both charismatic and a lyrical genius

    Now MBDTF wasn't a good rapper

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    Aisosa

    According to you.

    I know millions of people that would disagree.

    There are millions of people who think that Maroon 5 makes great music, your point?

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    raps

    Lmaoo f*** these niggas talking about

    That album is fire to all the niggas who were 10-16 in the post Graduation era

    Next they gonna say food and liqour was mid

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    shaleirose

    Up there in what?

    The problem isn't that he was dropping infrequently

    The problem is that a majority of the music he's dropped post-Eminem Show has been absolute garbage

    Respect, his overall number one albums, awards won, etc.
    He’d mop the floor
    His problem was after TES he focused on 8 mile, 50 cent, D12, his label and new signees and crashed out on d**** tryna do all that
    And nigga was a while father at the time doing all that

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    shaleirose

    Now MBDTF wasn't a good rapper

    Kanye has never been a great technical rapper.

    How is this even a discussion?

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    shaleirose

    There are millions of people who think that Maroon 5 makes great music, your point?

    They're probably right?

    Is that Adam Levine group?

  • Aisosa

    4:44 is not a classic

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    whitegirl

    Next they gonna say food and liqour was mid

    Don't you ever in your life compare Lu to Kanye

  • Aisosa

    According to you.

    I know millions of people that would disagree.

    K-pop is the biggest genre in the world rn

  • Aisosa

    Actually saw the list a couple of weeks ago but it just struck me how absurd it is, and how indicative of how conspiracy theorists may have actually had a point about mainstream media.

    Is Jay Z an excellent songwriter, yes.

    Is he the greatest songwriter in hip-hop history? F*** no.

    Is he the greatest songwriter from his era? F*** no.

    Eminem
    Pac
    Drake
    Ye
    Nelly
    X
    Nas
    The-Dream
    Neyo
    Jermaine Dupri

    Money had to have changed hands, and it's just hilarious how little credibility these previously respected publications now have

    no way you care what they think lmao

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    SyIIabIes

    That’s been his promo every album since Kingdom Come

    na he started that bullshit with The Black Album cuz he wanted to be in the goat convo but Nas just whooped his ass with Ether 2 years before and Eminem, DMX and 50 were giving him the beats commercially so he had to use retirement to beg for validation

  • Op is trolling at an incredible rate

  • Aisosa

    Kanye has never been a great technical rapper.

    How is this even a discussion?

    Being a technical rapper =/= being a great rapper

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    shaleirose

    There are millions of people who think that Maroon 5 makes great music, your point?

    Maroon 5 hate? We talking about rap also

  • Aisosa

    Don't you ever in your life compare Lu to Kanye

    First good opinion youve said itt

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    Aisosa

    They're probably right?

    Is that Adam Levine group?

    So do you believe that Taylor Swift makes the best music in the world since she has the most fans?

  • Aisosa

    Maybe you had to be there

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    Aisosa

    Don't you ever in your life compare Lu to Kanye

    Wait do u think kanye is better than lupe

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    shaleirose

    So do you believe that Taylor Swift makes the best music in the world since she has the most fans?

    Isn’t this a rap thread?

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    SyIIabIes

    Maroon 5 hate? We talking about rap also

    The point is that popularity does not determine quality of art. It's wild we still have to say this in 2026. Nobody said Eminem wasn't massively popular

  • SyIIabIes

    Isn’t this a rap thread?

    See above post

  • Aisosa

    According to you.

    I know millions of people that would disagree.

    Millions of middle school regards

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    This thread hella nerdy why are we discussing new york times

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